Government shut down ??

Nov 2012
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#42
Please provide a link to those job openings.

You do realize, don’t you, that it isn’t as easy as plucking someone from one job and putting them into another... right?
I started a whole thread on the subject.

7,100,000 FULL TIME job openings at a time of near record, or record employment

Dec 10, 2018
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7,100,000 JOB openings and the hunt is on to fill them, for the first time since GW Bush was president a person can voluntarily leave their job and find an opening and improve their benefits and wages.
Bureau of Labor Reports More Jobs Than Workers in Most Industries
 
Apr 2014
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#43
In the end, this is a moot discussion because Trump, as usual, will blink first then declare himself winner. Of course the only people who believe him are the TCSers.
 
Nov 2012
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#45
To end the shutdown all the Congress has to do is reallocate 0.006% of the Defense budget for the wall, This would not add one penny to current spending.

6 cents out of every 1000 dollars of defense spending.
 
Dec 2013
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#46
What "NON ESSENTAL SPENDING" do you think should be permanently shut down? Seeing about 40% of Federal employees become unemployed, about 850,000, of them would have an interesting effect on the unemployment rate not to mention the impact on American citizens awaiting their tax returns and other services. That said, as the report below notes, the terms "essential" and "nonessential" are misnomers.


https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34680.pdf
Essential. News media sometimes use the term “essential” instead of “excepted.” In the legislative branch, at least one source has referred to non-furloughed employees as “essential,” although this terminology was not used consistently across the branch and may have varied across offices and agencies.55 In the executive branch, this term was used similarly in the early 1980s.56 Since then, the term gradually has disappeared from official use in the executive branch in favor of “excepted,” in part to prevent a colloquial interpretation of the term “essential” as referring to relative importance or value. In congressional hearings that focused on the first FY1996 shutdown, some witnesses regretted that the terms “nonessential” and “essential” had been used to describe employees subject to furlough, and not subject to furlough, respectively. Use of the term “nonessential” was a misnomer and demeaning, they said.


What a federal government shutdown actually means
In the 2013 shutdown, the effects of the furloughs and other shutdowns in government activity included:

  • Tax refunds totaling almost $4 billion were delayed.
  • The Women, Infants, and Children nutrition program went unfunded.
  • Federal research activities at the National Institutes of Health (which lost about three-quarters of its employees), the National Science Foundation (which lost 98 percent of its workforce), and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (which lost two-thirds) shut down nearly entirely; the CDC scaled back its monitoring of disease outbreaks.
  • Environmental Protection Agency inspections halted at 1,200 locations.
  • The Food and Drug Administration delayed approval of drugs and medical devices.
  • The national parks shut down, resulting in $500 million in lost consumer spending from tourism.
  • Reviews of veterans’ disability applications slowed to a halt, with nearly 20,000 applications per week not being evaluated.
In total, the Office of Management and Budget estimated that the shutdown cut GDP growth in the fourth quarter of 2013 by 0.2 to 0.6 points, and resulted in 120,000 fewer jobs.

So while shutdowns don’t result in seniors going without their retirement checks, or the military closing up shop, or airplanes crashing into each other in the sky, they do cause massive disruption in the lives of hundreds of thousands of workers and their families, and grind a lot of government agencies to a halt.

Privatize it
 
Dec 2013
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#48
Bob, we hear this all the TIME. I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me. There are NO moderates in the GOP. Those who choose to stay have chosen sides. If they support Trump they are NOT moderates. They are cowards who won't stand up for the historical GOP platforms: Fiscal responsibility. Family Values, et al.
This is untrue

Please support this statement

Or

Link please
 
Apr 2014
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#49
I think he meant that a 50 year old middle-manager in Virginia is unlikely to rip his family out of school, out of the state, the wife away from her job just so he can move everyone 10 states away for a job that pays 50% less. Additionally, just because there are "7,100,000" jobs available doesn't mean a 50 year old middle-manager is qualified for most of them. Do you really think that 50 year old is going into mining or logging? Education? Slide into a middle-manager business job?

From your own link:
Bureau of Labor Reports More Jobs Than Workers in Most Industries
 
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