Green New Deal is a disaster-in-waiting

Jun 2013
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Katmandu
#12
One of my biggest disappointments with Obama was that he didn't push for massive investment in green, sustainable, and renewable technologies. China has 1.3 Billion people. Their emerging middle class has more people than we have in our whole country. China has already passed us in car sales and with in a decade or so will likely pass us in total economy size. India is already number 6 in economic size, and is developmentally only a few years behind China with almost a billion people. Resources ARE going to get scarce and we will need to get many of the from China. We WILL be fighting wars over those resources. It's moronically short sighted that we haven't launched a moon shot worthy campaign of investment in renewable and sustainable energy and everything else. All I can say is I probably won't be around to see this country die a slow painful death due to the extreme shortsightedness of our leaders.
Why? so our energy would cost 300% more than it does now like it does in California or Germany?

Trillions have been spent on 'green energy' in the US and it's still cost prohibitive.
 
Mar 2013
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Middle Tennessee
#13
Why? so our energy would cost 300% more than it does now like it does in California or Germany?

Trillions have been spent on 'green energy' in the US and it's still cost prohibitive.

And how much do you think shooting wars will cost ?? How many of your children or grandchildren are you willing to sacrifice to the gods of resources ??
 
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Mar 2013
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Middle Tennessee
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How about all of them ?? Oil, gas, clean water, minerals, precious metals. We're about to hit 8 billion people on the planet. If I live long enough we may be approaching the 10 billion mark. We still only have about 330 million here. We, the U.S., use a disproportionate amount of the worlds energy resources. If we don't make serious investments in renewables and sustainables, energy, food and every thing we consume, we are doomed. You and I probably won't see it, but the next couple of generations will start seeing it.
 
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Jul 2014
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massachusetts
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This is a proposal that gives direction, it isn't a step by step road map of every turn, it's aspirational.
And look at the effort the RW puts into trying to stop it cold. The OP is ridiculous,it's written to work up morons.

But the fact is....
80% of registered voters want this, including 64% of Republicans.
That's something that is going to happen, this is why the Koch Brothers are terrified of AOC.
 
Jun 2012
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Barsoom
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Neither 80% of registered voters want this, and 64% of Republicans want this. Neither group took a survey on the Green New Deal with any details. Even Pelosi dismissed this stupid idea.
 
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Jun 2012
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Barsoom
#18
Here is what the liberals have been up to this week.

Here is what Democrats/commies Cortez, Feinstein, Warren, Harris, and various other enemies of the state have been up to this past week:

Full term abortion.

Infanticide.

Black face.

KKK.

Absolute government take over of healthcare.

Shutdown private insurance companies.

Support for Maduro.

Remove "So help me God" from the oath of office.

Teach kindergarteners that there are fifteen genders.

Upgrade or replace every building, home, factory, and apartment in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency.

Build out high-speed rail to replace flying. Perhaps rails across the oceans.

Ensure that all Green New Deal jobs are union jobs that pay prevailing wages and hire local.

The United States government will provide every single American with a job with “family-sustaining wages, family, and medical leave, vacations, and a pension.

A Green New Deal that will give free college or trade schools for every American.

A Green New Deal that will provide safe, affordable, adequate housing for every American citizen.
 
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imaginethat

Forum Staff
Oct 2010
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Colorado
#19
What a stupid idea, to work toward sustainable industry, sustainable energy production, sustainable agriculture, a sustainable economy and ultimately a sustainable nation. Stupid, stupid idea, 'cause Jimmyb said so.

Poll: Majorities of both parties support Green New Deal

More than 80 percent of registered voters support the Green New Deal proposal being pushed by progressional Democratic lawmakers, a new poll found.

The survey conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication found that 92 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans back the Green New Deal plan.

The organizations behind the poll explained poll-takers avoided mentioning to respondents which representatives were backing the New Green Deal to prevent injecting bias.

...The poll surveyed 966 registered voters and has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.

More: Poll: Majorities of both parties support Green New Deal
 
Jun 2012
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Barsoom
#20
The "survey" consisted of just a brief paragraph about the Green New Deal then the survey asked "How much do you support or oppose this idea?" This happened between November 28th and December 11th, well before all of the details were available.
 
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