Hitler was stupid to not attack Russia FIRST

Dec 2016
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neither England or france would have amounted to a hill of beans had not the US supplied them. Neither would the Russians. The US could not have cared less if Hitler had killed every last Russian. in fact, many would have at least cheered and quite a few would have sent him money.
Actually, you are probably correct on this point, if we consider all the fascist despots the US has supported and even placed in power after coups against elected democratic governments.

Most US industrialists like Henry Ford and JD Rockefeller, wanted the US to make a deal with Hitler to fight the greater enemy - Communist Russia, as did the bankers, because all else aside, fascism is compatible with capitalism, while communism could lead to confiscation and nationalization of their assets.
 
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Hitler was stupid for starting the war when he did because he didn't have the necessary weapon systems to win the war. He could have won WWI but not WWII. He didn't have a navy or any long-range heavy bombers. And he didn't have the manpower or the logistical systems he needed. Plus he couldn't defend Germany. He lost the war when the first shot was fired.
 
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May 2017
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Logres
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The reason that the United Kingdom (not England – England is part of the UK) wouldn’t have declared war with France and Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union for three reasons:

a) The UK and France are and were democracies and democracies don’t (or never used to) declare war without a casus beli.
b) They would never have sided with Nazi Germany because by 1939 the disgusting nature of that regime was beginning to emerge
c) Anyone in their right mind (something in short supply here) would seek to avoid war at any cost
 
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May 2017
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Fool. The French and the English were fully under the control of the International Jewry. There was not a snowball's chance in Hell that they would've assisted in the National Socialist Revolution. Not a fucking chance.

Wrong on all accounts. The United States was relatively uninvolved until the Fall of France, and even then the material aid only ramped up after Germany's declaration of war in 1941. Lend Lease didn't even start coming in on the Russian Front until AFTER the failure of Heeresgruppe Mitte to seize Moscow in Unternehmen Taifun.

The United States was controlled, same as Britain and France, by the International Jewry and thus could not allow the National Socialists to succeed on any account. That's why the issue was pressed on Poland, when it was clear to them that the goal of the National Socialists was to reunite the German Fatherland in its entire, pre-Great War borders.
'The control of International Jewry’?! Are you serious????

Do you also believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa? If this wasn't so poisonous it would be hilarious
 
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Apr 2015
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Geography fail. :angry:
Germany could not have attacked Russia first, they didn't have an adjoining border in September 1939.
It wasn't until after the German invasion of Poland that they shared a common border
 
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Apr 2013
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Yep, June 22nd. Far too late in the year to start an invasion of that huge country.
But given that Hitler was as conceited as Dot Don, the concept of Russia putting up the kind of stubborn resistance they did was unthinkable.

Nobody knew invading Russia could be so complicated?
 
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Sep 2017
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Hitler's mistake was to attack Soviet Union in winter.
Wrong invasion. The MONGOLS attacked Russia in the winter so that their horses can cross frozen rivers and lakes. The Mongols owned the Rus during winter. All hail Jochi Khan and Sabutai!

There is nothing magical about winter in Russia. The Germans were just unprepared when winter came, just like Napoleon, that is poor planning and bad logistics, and very little else other than the vast stretches of NOTHING in Russia which once again points to poor planning and bad logistics. Little Finland fought the USSR to what amounted to a standstill in the Winter War and the Continuation War.

Despite the all the brouhaha about German military prowess, they have never won a war since becoming a nation, other than some genocides in Africa.
 
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