hormones and behavior

Feb 2014
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I think science is very important to our judgment and I am distressed by hostility when discussing our understanding of human behavior and especially our sexual behavior.

Our hormones play a strong role in how we feel, what we think, and our behavior. What a person does at one moment in time should not become the issue in judging that person. As a recent opinion article said, if we can not judge a person's whole life, maybe we should not be judging at all. I am posting this with the hope we can be more compassionate when judging others. It is about what male elephants experience, and although we are proud of our brains, I think we have an exaggerated opinion of their value and our intelligence and ability to control ourselves. Self-control is learned and has social/hormonal aspects. We are also driven hormones, and we do not learn self-control equally.

Musth,a sexual agressive period among elephant bulls
Musth

Musth is a period among adult male elephants, (over 15-20 years old) sometimes referred to as similar to male deer's "Rot". There is a three weeks pre-musth-condition, about one month high-musth, and one post-musth condition. Their temporal glands become swollen, from where a strong smelling fluid, rich of testosterone, runs down on their cheeks. During musth the males are very aggressive, and sexual active. According to Cynthia Moss, author of the book elephant memories, the older females in a heard gives passage to musth males when a female is in heat, while they block the way for younger males, not in musth. But males are always able to cover a female, also outside the musth period.

The reason for the musth seems to be that it prevents inbreeding. If the bulls would not be at their aggressive peak only for a month a year, only the largest, most dominant bull would cover the females all the time. In captivity, the limited space makes it dangerous to let a bull in must condition to a female, since she may be attacked and wounded if she is not willing to mate.

Most cases of elephants killing their handlers, or reports of a"rogue" wild elephant running wild through villages and attacking people, is during musth, when they get out of control, and their level of agression is high.

Younger bulls usually also go into a similar condition, from about their tenth year, but not so strong, and not so long time usually, a couple of days or a week, developing stronger musth for every year, with a peak between 30 and 40, then gradually showing less symptoms.

Bulls aging over 55 does seldom show musth at all. Many Indian mahouts claim that Makhnas show lesser musth than tusker´┐Żs. In captivity, bulls are claimed to have been in musth for over a year, (Hellabrunn Zoo, Munich) or longer. (CopenhagenZoo)


Asian Wild bulls often go into musth during rain season, and when they have had unnormal access of food, so the reason for the longer musth periods in captivity may have a connection with the short days during winters, (hormones often depend on daylight)over feeding, and under stimulation.

Recently it was discovered that long-term administration of leuprolide acetate (LA) depot reduces the musth. Early musth signs ceased within 3 days of drug administration after 10 of 12 injections.
Literature: de Oliveira, C. A., West, G. D., Houck, R., and Leblanc, M. Control of musth in an Asian elephant bull (Elephas maximus) using leuprolide acetate. Journal of Zoo and Wildlife Medicine 35[1], 70-76. 2004.
 
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This morning I read young females are most likely to become fearful and inhibited from leaving their homes because of hormones that cause her to be more timid for "survival of the species" reasons. The idea is, if she is timid she is more apt to stay where she and her child will be safe. At the same time males may be driven to risk taking behaviors like running up to a deadly animal with a stick and the intension of eating the animal for dinner. I think we need to respect what hormones have to do with our behaviors.

The Effect of Hormones on Your Social Anxiety
Hormones and anxiety are related in certain ways. When hormone levels are too high or too low, it can influence neurotransmitters, resulting in problems such as increased anxiety. People who live with social anxiety disorder (SAD) may find that levels of certain hormones relate to feelings of increased or decreased social anxiety.
 
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Granted, they play a important role in the lives of humans. However I think you would make a poor choice as a jurist on a first degree murder case.:think:
 
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Granted, they play a important role in the lives of humans. However I think you would make a poor choice as a jurist on a first degree murder case.:think:
I totally agree with you on that! I think our justice system is very unjust and our corrections system is inhumane and disgrace, and much more expensive than it should be because it is such a failure.

We seriously need to be more scientific in all things regarding human behavior. That for me includes shutting down football and teaching young men to "be tough and violent", while we should also greatly increasing physical exercise, especially for boys. Increasing the amount of physical activity children have would reduce behavior problems, increase concentration and improve learning. That would reduce all social problems. We must stop religion from defining who is good and bad and the superstition that goes with religious beliefs of good and evil.
 
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If for reasons of 'not wanting' to look into 'sexual preferences' a person shuts off certain talks and opens talks about 'hormones', this is only 1 side of their sexual preference. A person who is unwilling to listen to any 'other' information pertaining to preferences is as a person who 'denies' being an alcoholic.

Did 'hormones' make the person to become an 'alcoholic'? Was the person an 'alcoholic' before taking the first drink? What made the person to 'drink' in the first place and then continue to drink? Maybe the first drink was good and tasty? Maybe initial stages of 'addiction' set in?

So to say 'same sex' intercourse wasn't 'pleasurable' might be misleading. Because why would a person continue in something that was not pleasing or pleasurable, right?

So the question isn't about 'was the pleasure wrong'? Because getting 'high' on very toxic substances can be pleasurable and to justify pleasure as 'not wrong' is the same as justifying every other pleasure, including 'murder'. Some might get pleasure 'murdering' another person. Although the one 'murdered' might not find it pleasurable, the one doing the murdering, might.

So what is the concern with pleasures?

If two consenting adults agree to share in the same pleasure, what could be wrong with that?

These two might have had 'pleasure' trying to show that humans are kind.

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