How do you define Socialism

Sep 2018
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Possibly the most misused word in the english language

Socialism - Wikipedia

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[12] though social rather than individual ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][13][14] "Social ownership" may refer to several different forms:[15]

Varieties of socialism can be categorized in a variety of ways:[2][12][16]

 
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Sep 2018
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Envy and theft. That’s socialism.
that is not a proper definition .. and i know you think you re entitled to more than an equal share but you are not,, sir in reality you are the thief your crime might not be envy but it is gluttony and greed.. it was never yours in the first place.. try to undrstand that.. we are not stealing we are retrieving stolen goods thats all we are doing we decide who gets what.. you dont matter
 
Nov 2012
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that is not a proper definition .. and i know you think you re entitled to more than an equal share but you are not,, sir in reality you are the thief your crime might not be envy but it is gluttony and greed.. it was never yours in the first place.. try to undrstand that.. we are not stealing we are retrieving stolen goods thats all we are doing we decide who gets what.. you dont matter
Yep. Reaganomics destroyed this country and as anyone can see, every where it’s repeated around the world has the same results. The solution to the world economy is to return to pre Margret Thatcher pre Ronald Reagan economics. That starts with getting the upper tax rate back over 50% which stabilized the markets, reduces the chance of recessions, and eases the length and depth of crashes when they happen.

Socialism has nothing to do with it, except that you could attribute Reaganomics or Thatchernomics to socialism for the rich more accurately.
 
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Political control by the vast majority working class while capitalist murderers are still trying, followed by the abolition of the state and the beginning of a human society.
 
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Possibly the most misused word in the english language

Socialism - Wikipedia

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[12] though social rather than individual ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][13][14] "Social ownership" may refer to several different forms:[15]

Varieties of socialism can be categorized in a variety of ways:[2][12][16]

no the most misused word in your vocabulary.
 
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Political control by the vast majority working class while capitalist murderers are still trying, followed by the abolition of the state and the beginning of a human society.
Anarchy only results in despots. Like socialist states, it doesn't work mainly for two reasons; human nature and the competition for resources.
 
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If there's no state, you see, it can't. Think it through
If pigs could fly, would you and I be able to get rich selling helmets?

The fact remains anarchy is a fantasy as a lasting system. Most revolutions end in anarchy followed by despotism and authoritarianism. The US was lucky in how our revolution turned out but France, Russia and Spain were not...and also more typical in their outcomes.

Negan in "The Walking Dead" is a more typical outcome of anarchy than some sort of stateless utopia. In a world where people have to compete for resources to survive, there will always be conflict. People who band together to take those resources will do better than those who try to go it alone.
 
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If pigs could fly, would you and I be able to get rich selling helmets?

The fact remains anarchy is a fantasy as a lasting system. Most revolutions end in anarchy followed by despotism and authoritarianism. The US was lucky in how our revolution turned out but France, Russia and Spain were not...and also more typical in their outcomes.

Negan in "The Walking Dead" is a more typical outcome of anarchy than some sort of stateless utopia. In a world where people have to compete for resources to survive, there will always be conflict. People who band together to take those resources will do better than those who try to go it alone.
The French Revolution put the capitalist class in power, and the Commune was destroyed by the capitalists; the Russian working class was minute, and was destroyed by the capitalist intervention, resulting in dictatorial state capitalism; there was no effective revolution in Spain - an anarchist movement was destroyed by a reactionary army backed by the different forms ofcapitalism . There are no utopias, but destroying the state and living sensibly will be a lot less effort than the current crap, obviously, and might, unlike it, lead to human survival.
 

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