How insanely ironic.

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Trump has screwed up so many "negotiations" since becoming President.

It seems pretty clear that his style was to demand everything and if not given it, walk away to a new project.

The problem is, these are not buildings where a new project is around every corner.

You can't walk away from China, the immigrant issue and the deficit.

He may well be the worst President ever at negotiation. How insanely ironic given his proclaimed genius at negotiation.
 
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Trump is all hot-air. He has NO expertise, except possibly in dodging the draft or not paying taxes. He's an imbecile who inherited $7-10 billion from his daddy, and he likely has about $300 million now. Wow, what a business "genius".
 
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I don't see Trump as that great a business man. Let's start with the multiple bankruptcies. How in the hell do you go bankrupt with a casino ?? People literally walk in and hand you money by the bucket loads.

Then lets talk about the several thousand law suits over NON-payment for services. He screws his contractors, at least the smaller ones. Good business people pay their bills.

By some estimates he'd be almost as rich if he had simply invested the money in a good index fund !
 
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I don't see Trump as that great a business man. Let's start with the multiple bankruptcies. How in the hell do you go bankrupt with a casino ?? People literally walk in and hand you money by the bucket loads.

Then lets talk about the several thousand law suits over NON-payment for services. He screws his contractors, at least the smaller ones. Good business people pay their bills.

By some estimates he'd be almost as rich if he had simply invested the money in a good index fund !
He's a terrible businessman. Look at what has happened to his brand since he became president:

Trump businesses hit hard by presidency, figures show

A smart businessman would have divested all his interest in his companies and let his people run them while in office. A smart businessman would also have found a way to unite the country under his leadership, not piss most of it off.

Trump is a spoiled narcissist who thinks his way is the only way. That might work in the boardroom, but not as president.
 
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Trump is a spoiled narcissist who thinks his way is the only way. That might work in the boardroom, but not as president.
I said this from the very beginning. When every one was talking about how great it be to have an actual business man running the country. The traits that make good business people are not the traits that make good politicians.

Trump is text book classic narcissistic personality disorder. Almost to the point of delusion. He's still acting like a CEO not a president. He seems to be having an extremely hard time grasping that there are 535 other elected officials who have a say in how the country gets run. Not to mention the courts. He is now the losing president ever in court. He's running a 90% plus loss rate. He can't simply bark, growl, make threats and say "get it done" because there are some times whole agencies involved. I read one article that was talking about how enraged he gets when someone points out his idea is illegal or unconstitutional !!

At some point no matter which side of the political isle you're on, politicians HAVE to make compromises. At some point somebody has to say "OK lets try it this way" or "if you'll support this I'll support that". They can't stay entrenched forever. Trump just doesn't see it that way. If he doesn't get what he wants, when he wants it, the way he wants it, he gets mean, petty and vindictive.
 
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Please refer to this somewhat dated-though rather detailed-article about Trump's numerous business failures.:

https://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html

And like the article says, "Call it the art of the bad deal, one created by the arrogance and recklessness of a businessman whose main talent is self-promotion."

And I'll add that it appears to be a wonder as to why Trump was able to secure any casino license in NJ in the first place, given his alleged ties to the mob.:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910
 
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My favorite part of the whole Trump myth is that somehow HIS story is a rags to riches story. It's amazing that his base identified with Trump because "he was like them" or more accurately, what they aspired to be. He was -- and is -- for many, the living embodiment of the American dream. Now, how in the world they conjured up THAT scenario is beyond me. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to read ONE of Trump's biographies and get the details of his life. Daddy had bucks. Donny got Daddy's money, Mama's good looks and look who's looking good---like a real "master".

The truth is that Donny graduated from Wharton in 1968 and was running his father's company by 1971. Throughout his teens, he worked for his father. By the time he was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building. By the time Trump graduated from college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his father. The money increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s."

So, a self-made man? NO. A great deal-maker? NOPE. An American dream story for the ages? No. Trump is wealthy because his family was wealthy. Trump has a business because his father gave him the business.
 
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At some point no matter which side of the political isle you're on, politicians HAVE to make compromises. At some point somebody has to say "OK lets try it this way" or "if you'll support this I'll support that". They can't stay entrenched forever. Trump just doesn't see it that way. If he doesn't get what he wants, when he wants it, the way he wants it, he gets mean, petty and vindictive.
Trump has tried the compromise carrot with the Dems. Your memory is a bit off, the Dems aren't known as the party of no for nothing. When has there been a time that the Dems have entered any meeting about law and policy that wasn't preceded by "that's a non starter" or that's DOA.
 
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Trump has tried the compromise carrot with the Dems. Your memory is a bit off, the Dems aren't known as the party of no for nothing. When has there been a time that the Dems have entered any meeting about law and policy that wasn't preceded by "that's a non starter" or that's DOA.

And you seem to have completely forgotten what happened when the repubs regained control of congress under Obama. Or don't you remember McConnell's comment, "our TOP PRIORITY is to make Obama a one term president" OR don't you remember that the repubs proceeded to DOUBLE the old record for filibusters !! and then maintained that number every year afterwords. You have forgotten some of them actually went on the talk shows and stated, for the record that their INTENT was to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct every single thing, then blame the dems for not getting anything done.

So paaaaaaalllllllleeeeeeeeezzzzzzzeeeee don't show your hypocrisy by calling the dems the party of NO.
 
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My favorite part of the whole Trump myth is that somehow HIS story is a rags to riches story. It's amazing that his base identified with Trump because "he was like them" or more accurately, what they aspired to be. He was -- and is -- for many, the living embodiment of the American dream. Now, how in the world they conjured up THAT scenario is beyond me. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to read ONE of Trump's biographies and get the details of his life. Daddy had bucks. Donny got Daddy's money, Mama's good looks and look who's looking good---like a real "master".

The truth is that Donny graduated from Wharton in 1968 and was running his father's company by 1971. Throughout his teens, he worked for his father. By the time he was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building. By the time Trump graduated from college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his father. The money increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s."

So, a self-made man? NO. A great deal-maker? NOPE. An American dream story for the ages? No. Trump is wealthy because his family was wealthy. Trump has a business because his father gave him the business.

Trump started life on third base, but for some reason thinks he's hit a home run. Born into wealth, raised with all the privileges that wealth brings with it. Right schools, right connections, right good old boys clubs. It would be a shock if he wasn't rich !! It would be news if he had failed in business.

The issue is that Trump doesn't just think he's hit a home run, he thinks he's hit THE HOME RUN, the biggest, baddest, most fantastical home run ever hit by anyone, at any time, any where. He believes his own propaganda. Trump started life on third base, Oprah Winfrey start life in a vacant lot 5 blocks outside the stadium, but is nearly as rich. Tell me who the better business person is ?? Too bad she won't run for pres. I'd vote for her.
 

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