How to Cure Poverty in Today's United States

Jul 2014
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So if we used the democratic model of industry, the responsibility for industrial success would be shared and the reward for everyone would be more equitable, and because of the difference in management, it is highly likely a greater number of families would be functional. But since you all know absolutely about this, we are not going to discuss it and it will never be a possible reality.
You accomplish the same thing with graduated tax rates, on all income (earned, unearned, inherited) and you shut the loopholes. When things are good, we should be running a surplus. Deficit spending is for wartime and economic disasters.
That limits the amount of excess wealth that can be accumulated, and provides funding for the things that promote broader distribution of wealth, like education.
 
Feb 2014
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You accomplish the same thing with graduated tax rates, on all income (earned, unearned, inherited) and you shut the loopholes. When things are good, we should be running a surplus. Deficit spending is for wartime and economic disasters.
That limits the amount of excess wealth that can be accumulated, and provides funding for the things that promote broader distribution of wealth, like education.
I have been gaining a better understanding of the philosophy beneath the ideology of democracy and it is a shame our nation is not teaching that philosophy and instead is focused on Christianity. This became a more serious problem following the 1958 National Defense Education Act.

The philosophy beneath democracy is about human excellence and it is dependent on education for that, and education was about that until 1958. Philosophically, democracy is about truth, and that is not studying the Bible but following science, and from there, democracy is rule by reason, not rule by what we think a God will's for his favorite people. More than Christianity this philosophy lifts everyone up and is far, far more humane than a religion based on worship of a jealous, revengeful, punishing and fearsome God, that justifies the division of masters and servants, those blessed by God and those who displease him. :mad: That belief system can never lead to the power and glory of democracy. It can not lead us to a better world as democracy can.

It is a myth that our nation was great because of Christianity. It was great because of the philosophy that is the foundation of democracy. Now we can see how bad things can get without that education. :coldsweat:
 
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I have been gaining a better understanding of the philosophy beneath the ideology of democracy and it is a shame our nation is not teaching that philosophy and instead is focused on Christianity. This became a more serious problem following the 1958 National Defense Education Act.

The philosophy beneath democracy is about human excellence and it is dependent on education for that, and education was about that until 1958. Philosophically, democracy is about truth, and that is not studying the Bible but following science, and from there, democracy is rule by reason, not rule by what we think a God will's for his favorite people. More than Christianity this philosophy lifts everyone up and is far, far more humane than a religion based on worship of a jealous, revengeful, punishing and fearsome God, that justifies the division of masters and servants, those blessed by God and those who displease him. :mad: That belief system can never lead to the power and glory of democracy. It can not lead us to a better world as democracy can.

It is a myth that our nation was great because of Christianity. It was great because of the philosophy that is the foundation of democracy. Now we can see how bad things can get without that education. :coldsweat:
This flushes out the central issue I think....Even though strictly speaking Democracy is a Utopian ideal, the premise is that the will of the majority is reflected in the vote of the majority, whose votes are based on individual perspectives and cultural biases. Unfortunately, that means it's an unrealistic ideal that the effects of religion can be avoided.

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