Is fascism right or left

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:love: I love your honesty. And you resolved why we are having a communication problem. Yes, I am working with the history of education and the history of the world and my mind seems to give a unique twist to everything. That is what makes human progress possible, that unique perspective, but only people with critical thinking skills can benefit from the creativity of human thinking. We brought that to an end 1958 the Military-Industrial Complex was given control of our education. We replace liberal education with education for a technological society with unknown values, and no one prepared to figure out what the new values would be. We did this for military reasons, the military technology of the second world war demanding rapid technology development. Be clear about this. Those who have control of education are a completely different set of people with very different goals than education before 1958.

When people are playing with nuclear weapons, we do not want to slow progress down with critical thinking skills, nor waste our money on culture, nor keep our women at home to care for the children. We need a fully employed population to pay for our high tech. national defense. And very important, with the change in our bureaucratic order, we do not need to train everyone for independent thinking and civic and political leadership. Harvard and Yale can produce enough leaders, who can run the Military-Industrial Complex for us, and now all we need is the education that you know is producing our young to be products for the Military-Industrial Complex. In the past, we did not have the bureaucratic organization essential to making this system of government authority over the people possible. I hope you understand what this has to do with our liberty? Our sense of who has the power and authority and why we are arguing if fascism is left or right.
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High IQ individuals created all the world's weapons, all the technological changes, and all the world's surplus wealth. However, giving superior minds the same social, financial, and even educational rewards that superior athletes get, even though it worked as a way to get the most out of that talent, would threaten the false idea that the plutocracy creates the nation's wealth and jobs. So the ruling class achieved the goal of exploiting intelligence by arranging the educational structure to make High IQs miserable in social life and uncaring about all other material rewards. This would turn them into escapists seeking havens in laboratory science, shut off from all disappointing social contacts. They were suckered into "science for science's sake." The rest of the students were dumbed-down, because all they did was operate the inventions, which takes very little education.

So you miss the change completely, as the ruling class indoctrinated you to do. I'm heartened that no one answers your misdirected criticism, especially since you are so sure you're right, because your intellectual father-figures let you in on this false but special-sounding secret knowledge of "what's really been going on."
 
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20 years ago, the dot.com billionaires like Gates, Steve Jobs and Ray Ellison (Sun Microsystems) were presented to us as heroes of the "new economy" proclaimed by Clinton and Gore. Self-made geniuses who started work on projects in their garages and college dorm rooms and built multibillion dollar corporations. But that was all a myth promoted by media and wall Street financiers. In reality, Jobs ripped off Steve Wosniak...the main creative genius at Apple..who guided a room full of techies and engineers to create the first Apple desktop computers that started the revolution. He was a major shareholder...so he got his payoff, but Jobs wanted him and other groundfloor employees and shareholders out of the way so that he could claim the entire project from then on. Even Job's defenders declare that he was not the source of the big ideas, he just had a knack for knowing what the buyer would want to use and how to hype the product. Same goes with Gates and the more recent so called geniuses like Zuckerberg...who cheated other collaborators on Facebook like the Winklevoss brothers so that he could hog all the profits from rising share values.

The pattern in the dot.com boom appears similar to past abrupt shifts in the economy, where one guy who's lucky profits like a lottery winner, and of course we never hear about all the ones who lost and loaded the dice on a hairbrained scheme that didn't take off. Also worth noting that, now that computer world has become four corporate monopolies who own most of the sales and profits from their niches, that the new generation of dot.com profiteers are forced to accept a buyout offer by Bezos, Gates or Zuckerberg OR they end up with nothing, as the monopolies create near identical products just outside of a patent infringement lawsuit. So for the creators of Instagram for one, it's a simple choice: take the offer from the Facebook conglomerate or end up penniless!

So, the pattern of the "new" economy is no different than from the old economies of the past, where the most greedy, dishonest, and selfish players make a move to purge all the people who trusted them and thought they were friends.........J.D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, Vanderbilt etc. all did not want extra baggage tagging along when they turned their companies into monopolies controlling entire industries and banking. The 'new economy' monopolists are the same kinds of sociopaths who end up kicked to the margins in normal cultures where honesty, kindness and loyalty are treasured values. But those aren't the values of capitalists cultures....where the worst kinds of people thrive and rule over the rest of us when they decide it is time to fund and take over the political system for their own advantage!
Bill Gates's Revenge

When Gates was 18, he was a typical computer nerd. He jumped at the chance to fix a company's computers; to him it was just for fun. He got his wake-up call when he realized that he had saved them a million dollars and only got paid $2,000.

But really—and we are not allowed to cite this as a primary cause—the reason he didn't react like a typical meek geek was that his father was a millionaire. So unlike other escapist nerds, he realized that science was for suckers; the real reward was in owning corporate patents. Gates figured, if these pushovers don't have the self-respect to get at least 50% of the wealth produced by their inventions, it's their own fault, so why shouldn't he exploit them if they don't have enough pride to stand up for themselves?

Nobel Prize winner Kary Mullis only got a $30,000 bonus for the polymerase chain reaction, which his dumb-jock bully bosses sold for $300,000,000! The inventor of Valium and the inventor of television got the same raw deal. To stop this Grand Larceny, A-students must become Alpha Males and doormat nerds must commit suicide.

As usual, you're missing the point entirely, just because you've never heard it before. But money talks, and that's all we hear.
 
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Long Live Prince Henry the Navigator! Muito Obrigado - Thank you very much

Infante Dom Henrique Transformed the stories of humanity.I say I was the father of the new nations.

Sim sou o Sr. Silva do outro forum Silva meu ultimo nome. - Yes I am Mr. Silva from another forum Silva my last name

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Portugal never should have let its colonies go. I've heard from people who live in Goa that they are much worse off under Indian rule.


Friend I do not doubt but it costs me to believe. I always thought they were happier without the presence of Portugal

It reminds me in the 1980s of an Angolan lady speaking my language, with a dead mouse in her hand saying it was going to be food for her, and said that when Angola was Portuguese she always had food to eat, these images aired on Portuguese television. , I was moved by this image.
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Friend in 1974 I was a 16 year old young man, an old fellow countryman told me these words that I never forgot. The Portuguese will one day cry for Salazar. The 25 of April of 1974 who was in the power of Portugal was Marcello Caetano.

Friend this old gentleman, was right today many Portuguese at my age and few older cry for some laws that Portugal had in the time of the facism, which I am also in favor, for example who kills for pleasure has to be killed, who steals cut fingers or hands, pedophiles castrate them

Friend you can not imagine, what Brazilians say about the Portuguese, call thieves to the Portuguese who stole the gold, forgetting that the Portuguese took to Brazil coffee etc. forget that Portugal left the Catholic religion and monuments, forget that the Portuguese today do not belong to the fifteenth or sixteenth century
Facism. Antonio Oliveira Salazar died poor.
Democracy. Mario Soares died rich.
See the difference.
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Amigo eu não duvido mas me custa acreditar. Sempre pensei que eram mais felizes sem a presença de Portugal

Me faz lembrar nos anos 80 uma senhora Angolana a falar o meu idioma,com um rato morto nas mãos a dizer que ia ser a comida para ela,e disse que quando Angola era portuguêsa sempre teve comida para comer,essas imagens passou na televisão portuguêsa,eu fiquei comovido com essa imagem.
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Amigo em 1974 eu era um jovem com 16 anos,um velho senhor compatrióta me disse estas palavras que eu nunca me esqueci. Os portuguêses um dia vão chorar pelo Salazar. O 25 Abril de 1974 quem estava no poder de Portugal era o Marcello Caetano.

Amigo esse velho senhor,tinha razão hoje muitos portuguêses com a minha idade e poucos mais velhos choram por algumas leis que Portugal tinha no tempo do fácismo,que eu tambem sou a favor,por exemplo quem mata por prazer tem que ser morto,quem rouba cortar os dedos ou as mãos,aos pedófilos os castrar
Amigo voçê não imagina,o que os brasileiros dizem sobre os portuguêses,chamam ladrões aos portuguêses que roubamos o ouro,se esquecendo que os portuguêses levaram para o Brasil o café etc. se esquecem que Portugal deixou a religião católica e monumentos,se esquecem que os portugueses de hoje não pertecem ao século XV ou XVI

Facismo. António Oliveira Salazar morreu pobre.
Democracia. Mário Soares morreu rico.
Ver a diferença.
Angola Is an Oil Goldmine, and the Angolan 99% Get Nothing From All That Wealth

I don't actually support 20th Century fascism, but the cultural values that built the United States in the 19th Century would definitely be called "fascism" today. I also considered Bismarck and the British Empire to be literally progressive, and the Progressivism today to be anti-majority, backward-moving, and degenerate. We don't hear anything about Portugal, but the way you describe it, we ourselves have been suffering from the same nation-destroying trends since 1960. So I guess Salazar was like Eisenhower.
 
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According friend Salazar was a great statesman.He released Portugal from World War II.He always distrusted the Franco of Spain and Germany as well as England and the U.S.A.
Yes Salazar also had his mistakes. The Portuguese dictatorship made many Portuguese suffer. Portugal Salazar saw only the Portuguese colonies in Africa.

The difference I see today with facism Portugal was a rich country with many poor Portuguese. Today I see democratic Portugal full of politicians who are parasites and Portugal still has poor Portuguese. Friend sorry my latin Portugal came out of the shit of facism and went into the shit of capitalist facism, exploitation with work still exists in Portugal, real examples we have immigrants from Russia from Ukraine from Romania who work long hours and are underpaid, immigrants accept because they are clandestine in Portugal the shit is similar to USA like France Germany England etc.

Friend the richest countries, are the countries that have their population living in the shit.Venezuela Angola Iraq Libia etc.etc.

Socialism Democracy Communism Dictatorship is all the same shit.


In portuguese


Amigo segundo dizem que Salazar foi um grande estadista.Livrou Portugal da segunda guerra mundial.Ele sempre desconfiou do Franco de Espanha e da Alemanha como tambem desconfiou da Inglaterra e da U.S.A.
Sim Salazar tambem teve os seus erros. A dictadura portuguêsa fez sofrer muitos portuguêses. Portugal Salazar só via as colónias portuguêsas na Africa.

A diferênça que eu vejo hoje com o fácismo Portugal era um país rico,com muitos portuguêses pobres.Hoje vejo Portugal democrático cheio de politicos que são uns parasitas e Portugal continua a ter portuguêses pobres. Amigo desculpa o meu latim Portugal saiu da merda do facismo e entrou na merda do fácismo capitalista, a exploração com o trabalho ainda existe em Portugal,exemplos reais temos imigrantes da Russia da Ucrânia da Roménia que trabalham muitas horas e são mal pagos,os imigrantes aceitam porque estão clandestinos em Portugal a merda é similar a U.S.A como na França Alemanha Inglaterra etc.

Amigo os países mais ricos,são os países que tem a sua população a viverem na merda.Venezuela Angola Iraque Libia etc.etc.

Socialismo Democracia Comunismo Dictadura é tudo a mesma merda.

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Speaking of Portuguese justice, many Portuguese politicians say that Portugal spends a lot of money on justice, as lawyers and judges are stealing money that belongs to the Portuguese people. Today a Portuguese killer in prison he is a star is famous, kill and then write books. Portugal had a cheap justice, if the laws were to castrate pedophiles cut their hands or fingers to all thieves starting with political lawyer judges and have the death penalty with murderers, I am against life imprisonment, it is very expensive to have than give bedding fresh food to a murderer, who was cheaper to be killed.
Attention nobody is free to go to a prison, each case is a case. To kill for pleasure I wish death, who steals millions of euros to the Portuguese I want to cut hands to pedophiles castrate. Portugal with these laws was a safe country.

Live to freedom yes it is true, but freedom has to have limits, starting with education, a citizen has his rights but the same citizen has to have duties with society in order to claim his rights as a citizen.

A Portuguese expression. Without grapes there is no wine.


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Falar da justiça portuguêsa,muitos politicos portuguêses dizem que Portugal gasta muito dinheiro com a justiça,pois fica andam os advogados e juizes a roubar o dinheiro que pertençe ao povo português. Hoje um assassino português na prisão ele é uma estrêla é famoso,matam e a seguir escrevem livros. Portugal tinha uma justiça barata,se as leis fosse castrar os pedófilos cortar as mãos ou os dedos a todos os ladrões a começar por politicos advogados juizes e ter a pena de morte com os assassinos,eu sou contra a prisão perpétua,fica muito caro ter que dar cama roupa lavada comida a um assassino,que ficava mais barato ser morto.
Atênção ninguem está livre de ir parar a uma prisão,cada caso é um caso. Matar por prazer eu desejo a morte,a quem rouba milhões de euros aos portuguêses desejo que cortem as mãos aos pedófilos castrar. Portugal com estas leis era um país seguro.

Viva á liberdade sim é verdade,mas a liberdade tem que ter limites,a começar pela educação, um cidadão tem os seus direitos mas o mesmo cidadão tem que ter deveres com a sociedade,para poder reclamar os seus direitos como cidadão.

Uma expressão portuguêsa.Sem uva não existe vinho.

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Another Portuguese expression that has to do with the politics of Portugal

(Expression. Who always fucks is the Mussel




Mexilhão - Mussel

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Mais uma expressão portuguêsa que tem a ver com a politica de Portugal

( Expressão. Quem se fode sempre é o Mexilhão
 
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If you are dealing with a lot of family tragedy, you should probably abandon forums for a while and take care of more important things.
Good morning. :D

Let us begin with something that may get you to consider education was about defending our democracy and liberty, not about money. It was about our liberty, not making us industrial slaves.

Jefferson
was an advocate of public education. ... He believed that "no other sure foundation can be devised for the preservation of freedom and happiness" and that failing to provide public education would "leave the people in ignorance." Wikipedia
I anticipated your position on my "personal problem". My personal problem is not a personal problem but a national problem. In the 70's we declared a national youth crisis. I was not "just a housewife". I was a homemaker and that was a very important social position to hold, based on the reasoning of Aristotle. Do not blame the parents for the 70's national youth crisis, and do not blame the teachers for our moral breakdown. Give some thought to Jefferson's arguments for public education and the federal take over of education that has radically changed education, and the social, economic and political ramifications of this change, and why my arguments are in a thread about fascism.

In knew education had changed and that is the only thing every child in the US would share in common. I knew it had changed because one day my teachers were functioning in a state of shock. We were all worried about a nuclear attack so their behavior was frightening causing this memory to stick in my head. Finally, a male teacher explained to the class, the purpose of education had been changed. They would now be educating everyone for a technological society with unknown values. He told us to prepare for a day when we did not work 40 hour jobs because technology would make our labor unnecessary. There is some truth to that, but mostly the problem isn't lack of good paying jobs, but the amount of education one needs to get one of those good jobs. In reality, not everyone is college material and these folks are hurting! A lumber mill that provided a good income for the whole community is now running with a handful of people and that impacts the whole community and our sense of security and self-worth. This is what Trump supporters are reacting to. Judging people by their IQ score instead of their character impacts how we value people and what we think it means to be a valuable person. There are moral implications to the change in education. Do you want to argue that point?

Secondly, I knew education changed because my grandmother was a teacher. She was such a devoted teacher, she continued to teach as a volunteer when was aged out of her paid position. I remember her reaction to the change that meant administration took authority away from the teacher. We are blaming parents for what began in the schools, and what happened to education was not the fault of teachers, but the changed policy and who has the power and authority to make that change. If you want to argue this point, I will gladly get into the details.

Because I knew education had been changed and that things were going wrong nationally, I began buying old school books to discover what it meant to defend democracy as my grandmother was doing. I have that infomration. It is just a pain in the ass to copy what is in the books when no one seriously wants the information, but for reasons I do understand, they want to argue against what I am saying. Why would anyone do that, knowing s/he has made no attempt to be knowledgable of the subject? o_O

We are discussing fascism here and my information pertains to the subject. Eisenhower called the education we had "domestic education" when he asked congress to pass the 1958 National Defense Act for national defense reasons. Education is perhaps the most important part of the Military-Industrial Complex. The Military-Industrial Complex is Eisenhower's term for the "New World Order". The Bush family prefers the term New World Order. Add 2=2. This education is not just about money, but also about power and authority. Facsism Now if a child wants out school, all the child has to do is say he will bring a gun a school, or carry a knife and get reported by another student for nothing more than having a knife. Sure there are good reasons for this no tolerance authority over students, the authoritative reaction with no personal judgment, and we should be alarm by our fascist reality of intolerance, lack of wisdom and personal judgment, and dependency on authority over us that is driven by policy by personal judgment and character. Damnit, what is the problem with fascism if it is not what I am talking about. That no one gets it is what makes hysterical.
 
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I was speaking to the poster I quoted. If you have that poster on "ignore", you wouldn't see the quote, so you wouldn't know to whom I was speaking. In that case you would have to click on "Show ignored content" in order to see what I quoted.
:neutral: That is a problem I never considered. My bad.
 
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According friend Salazar was a great statesman.He released Portugal from World War II.He always distrusted the Franco of Spain and Germany as well as England and the U.S.A.
Yes Salazar also had his mistakes. The Portuguese dictatorship made many Portuguese suffer. Portugal Salazar saw only the Portuguese colonies in Africa.

The difference I see today with facism Portugal was a rich country with many poor Portuguese. Today I see democratic Portugal full of politicians who are parasites and Portugal still has poor Portuguese. Friend sorry my latin Portugal came out of the shit of facism and went into the shit of capitalist facism, exploitation with work still exists in Portugal, real examples we have immigrants from Russia from Ukraine from Romania who work long hours and are underpaid, immigrants accept because they are clandestine in Portugal the shit is similar to USA like France Germany England etc.

Friend the richest countries, are the countries that have their population living in the shit.Venezuela Angola Iraq Libia etc.etc.

Socialism Democracy Communism Dictatorship is all the same shit.


In portuguese


Amigo segundo dizem que Salazar foi um grande estadista.Livrou Portugal da segunda guerra mundial.Ele sempre desconfiou do Franco de Espanha e da Alemanha como tambem desconfiou da Inglaterra e da U.S.A.
Sim Salazar tambem teve os seus erros. A dictadura portuguêsa fez sofrer muitos portuguêses. Portugal Salazar só via as colónias portuguêsas na Africa.

A diferênça que eu vejo hoje com o fácismo Portugal era um país rico,com muitos portuguêses pobres.Hoje vejo Portugal democrático cheio de politicos que são uns parasitas e Portugal continua a ter portuguêses pobres. Amigo desculpa o meu latim Portugal saiu da merda do facismo e entrou na merda do fácismo capitalista, a exploração com o trabalho ainda existe em Portugal,exemplos reais temos imigrantes da Russia da Ucrânia da Roménia que trabalham muitas horas e são mal pagos,os imigrantes aceitam porque estão clandestinos em Portugal a merda é similar a U.S.A como na França Alemanha Inglaterra etc.

Amigo os países mais ricos,são os países que tem a sua população a viverem na merda.Venezuela Angola Iraque Libia etc.etc.

Socialismo Democracia Comunismo Dictadura é tudo a mesma merda.

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Speaking of Portuguese justice, many Portuguese politicians say that Portugal spends a lot of money on justice, as lawyers and judges are stealing money that belongs to the Portuguese people. Today a Portuguese killer in prison he is a star is famous, kill and then write books. Portugal had a cheap justice, if the laws were to castrate pedophiles cut their hands or fingers to all thieves starting with political lawyer judges and have the death penalty with murderers, I am against life imprisonment, it is very expensive to have than give bedding fresh food to a murderer, who was cheaper to be killed.
Attention nobody is free to go to a prison, each case is a case. To kill for pleasure I wish death, who steals millions of euros to the Portuguese I want to cut hands to pedophiles castrate. Portugal with these laws was a safe country.

Live to freedom yes it is true, but freedom has to have limits, starting with education, a citizen has his rights but the same citizen has to have duties with society in order to claim his rights as a citizen.

A Portuguese expression. Without grapes there is no wine.


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Falar da justiça portuguêsa,muitos politicos portuguêses dizem que Portugal gasta muito dinheiro com a justiça,pois fica andam os advogados e juizes a roubar o dinheiro que pertençe ao povo português. Hoje um assassino português na prisão ele é uma estrêla é famoso,matam e a seguir escrevem livros. Portugal tinha uma justiça barata,se as leis fosse castrar os pedófilos cortar as mãos ou os dedos a todos os ladrões a começar por politicos advogados juizes e ter a pena de morte com os assassinos,eu sou contra a prisão perpétua,fica muito caro ter que dar cama roupa lavada comida a um assassino,que ficava mais barato ser morto.
Atênção ninguem está livre de ir parar a uma prisão,cada caso é um caso. Matar por prazer eu desejo a morte,a quem rouba milhões de euros aos portuguêses desejo que cortem as mãos aos pedófilos castrar. Portugal com estas leis era um país seguro.

Viva á liberdade sim é verdade,mas a liberdade tem que ter limites,a começar pela educação, um cidadão tem os seus direitos mas o mesmo cidadão tem que ter deveres com a sociedade,para poder reclamar os seus direitos como cidadão.

Uma expressão portuguêsa.Sem uva não existe vinho.

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Another Portuguese expression that has to do with the politics of Portugal

(Expression. Who always fucks is the Mussel




Mexilhão - Mussel

.........

Mais uma expressão portuguêsa que tem a ver com a politica de Portugal

( Expressão. Quem se fode sempre é o Mexilhão
:vomit: I thought those mussels looked yummy until I read the thought that goes with them.

When it comes to punishing criminals and fascist thinking which seems very reactionary to me, I want to mention we have elements of such reactionary thinking too. That is why I am so concerned that we understand what education and culture have to do with being fascist. Our biggest concern with fascism is the intolerance and reactionary treatment of others, without hesitation. We want to believe what happened in Germany could never happen in the US and we are blind to how that is infact creeping into our culture. I know you to be a very nice person, so your attitude towards criminal acts, the focus on the act rather than person and circumstances, is very reveling. When everyone thinks like that, obviously there is a political problem. It is like drinking polluted water with no knowledge of the dangers. Thank you for the revelation.

In Portuguese


:vomit:Eu pensei que aqueles mexilhões pareciam deliciosos até ler o pensamento que os acompanha.

Quando se trata de punir criminosos e pensamento fascista que parece muito reacionário para mim, quero mencionar que também temos elementos desse pensamento reacionário. É por isso que estou tão preocupado que entendamos o que educação e cultura têm a ver com ser fascistas. Nossa maior preocupação com o fascismo é a intolerância e o tratamento reacionário de outros, sem hesitação. Queremos acreditar que o que aconteceu na Alemanha nunca poderia acontecer nos EUA e estamos cegos para saber como isso está se infiltrando em nossa cultura. Eu sei que você é uma pessoa muito legal, então sua atitude em relação a atos criminosos, o foco no ato e não na pessoa e nas circunstâncias, é muito revelador. Quando todo mundo pensa assim, obviamente há um problema político. É como beber água poluída sem conhecer os perigos. Obrigado pela revelação.
 
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Good morning. :D

Let us begin with something that may get you to consider education was about defending our democracy and liberty, not about money. It was about our liberty, not making us industrial slaves.



I anticipated your position on my "personal problem". My personal problem is not a personal problem but a national problem. In the 70's we declared a national youth crisis. I was not "just a housewife". I was a homemaker and that was a very important social position to hold, based on the reasoning of Aristotle. Do not blame the parents for the 70's national youth crisis, and do not blame the teachers for our moral breakdown. Give some thought to Jefferson's arguments for public education and the federal take over of education that has radically changed education, and the social, economic and political ramifications of this change, and why my arguments are in a thread about fascism.

In knew education had changed and that is the only thing every child in the US would share in common. I knew it had changed because one day my teachers were functioning in a state of shock. We were all worried about a nuclear attack so their behavior was frightening causing this memory to stick in my head. Finally, a male teacher explained to the class, the purpose of education had been changed. They would now be educating everyone for a technological society with unknown values. He told us to prepare for a day when we did not work 40 hour jobs because technology would make our labor unnecessary. There is some truth to that, but mostly the problem isn't lack of good paying jobs, but the amount of education one needs to get one of those good jobs. In reality, not everyone is college material and these folks are hurting! A lumber mill that provided a good income for the whole community is now running with a handful of people and that impacts the whole community and our sense of security and self-worth. This is what Trump supporters are reacting to. Judging people by their IQ score instead of their character impacts how we value people and what we think it means to be a valuable person. There are moral implications to the change in education. Do you want to argue that point?

Secondly, I knew education changed because my grandmother was a teacher. She was such a devoted teacher, she continued to teach as a volunteer when was aged out of her paid position. I remember her reaction to the change that meant administration took authority away from the teacher. We are blaming parents for what began in the schools, and what happened to education was not the fault of teachers, but the changed policy and who has the power and authority to make that change. If you want to argue this point, I will gladly get into the details.

Because I knew education had been changed and that things were going wrong nationally, I began buying old school books to discover what it meant to defend democracy as my grandmother was doing. I have that infomration. It is just a pain in the ass to copy what is in the books when no one seriously wants the information, but for reasons I do understand, they want to argue against what I am saying. Why would anyone do that, knowing s/he has made no attempt to be knowledgable of the subject? o_O

We are discussing fascism here and my information pertains to the subject. Eisenhower called the education we had "domestic education" when he asked congress to pass the 1958 National Defense Act for national defense reasons. Education is perhaps the most important part of the Military-Industrial Complex. The Military-Industrial Complex is Eisenhower's term for the "New World Order". The Bush family prefers the term New World Order. Add 2=2. This education is not just about money, but also about power and authority. Facsism Now if a child wants out school, all the child has to do is say he will bring a gun a school, or carry a knife and get reported by another student for nothing more than having a knife. Sure there are good reasons for this no tolerance authority over students, the authoritative reaction with no personal judgment, and we should be alarm by our fascist reality of intolerance, lack of wisdom and personal judgment, and dependency on authority over us that is driven by policy by personal judgment and character. Damnit, what is the problem with fascism if it is not what I am talking about. That no one gets it is what makes hysterical.
Athena, education is not about money per se. It is part of the "superstructure", all of which is dedicated to keeping the nation and society going, and the economy is the foundation. That is why there has never been an educational revolution with the People's Party of Education taking up arms to overthrow education. It's simple logic backed by observation, and you seem determined to be blinded by the trees so as to not see the forest.

Regarding fascism, the problem is that due to education failing to educate us about it and arm us to identify it are identify it's development, we now have fascism growing and advancing and nearly half the damned population WANTS IT!!! They've decided that representative democracy is inefficient and gets little done, but a "strongman" dictator would get things done!! THAT is your education connection. Education has made us blind to the march of corporate power and the economy corporatists want!
 
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I like your picture of the boy so serious and saluting, and your explanation of being born into fascism. I see the enemy a little differently. For me, it taught my children that older people are old fashioned and outdated, and their education makes them so much smart. Also that the state takes better care of people than their families. We turned on women who stayed home to care for their families and said women were "just housewife's" as though they were the most unimportant part of our civilization, then we blamed gays for our lost family values after selling our women to the machine and putting our children in institutions to be raised by the machine. Seeing the machine for what it is, is most important. It makes great promises but it is dehumanizing and like the beast of the bible, it is hateful. But see how proud the boy is to salute the fascist machine. He is very proud to be part of the machine/beast. He will even turn in his parents if they do something wrong. Fascism makes him a superhuman, kind of like a zombie is gifted with immortality and all others are undesirable and inferior. Heil Hitler or Mussolini or Trump. It is great to be great.

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Gosto da sua foto do garoto tão séria e saudando, e da sua explicação para nascer no fascismo. Eu vejo o inimigo um pouco diferente. Para mim, ensinou aos meus filhos que as pessoas mais velhas são antiquadas e desatualizadas, e sua educação as torna muito inteligentes. Também que o estado cuide melhor das pessoas do que de suas famílias. Ativamos as mulheres que ficaram em casa para cuidar de suas famílias e disseram que as mulheres eram "apenas donas de casa" como se fossem a parte mais sem importância de nossa civilização, depois culpamos os gays por nossos valores familiares perdidos depois de vender nossas mulheres para a máquina e colocar nossos filhos em instituições a serem criados pela máquina. Ver a máquina como ela é é mais importante. Faz grandes promessas, mas é desumanizante e, como a besta da Bíblia, é odioso. Mas veja como o garoto está orgulhoso de saudar a máquina fascista. Ele tem muito orgulho de fazer parte da máquina / animal. Ele até entregará seus pais se eles fizerem algo errado. O fascismo faz dele um super-humano, como se um zumbi fosse dotado de imortalidade e todos os outros são indesejáveis e inferiores. Heil Hitler, Mussolini ou Trump. É ótimo ser ótimo.
Obrigado, one question, is north korea fascisr?
 
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According friend Salazar was a great statesman.He released Portugal from World War II.He always distrusted the Franco of Spain and Germany as well as England and the U.S.A.
Yes Salazar also had his mistakes. The Portuguese dictatorship made many Portuguese suffer. Portugal Salazar saw only the Portuguese colonies in Africa.

The difference I see today with facism Portugal was a rich country with many poor Portuguese. Today I see democratic Portugal full of politicians who are parasites and Portugal still has poor Portuguese. Friend sorry my latin Portugal came out of the shit of facism and went into the shit of capitalist facism, exploitation with work still exists in Portugal, real examples we have immigrants from Russia from Ukraine from Romania who work long hours and are underpaid, immigrants accept because they are clandestine in Portugal the shit is similar to USA like France Germany England etc.

Friend the richest countries, are the countries that have their population living in the shit.Venezuela Angola Iraq Libia etc.etc.

Socialism Democracy Communism Dictatorship is all the same shit.


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Amigo segundo dizem que Salazar foi um grande estadista.Livrou Portugal da segunda guerra mundial.Ele sempre desconfiou do Franco de Espanha e da Alemanha como tambem desconfiou da Inglaterra e da U.S.A.
Sim Salazar tambem teve os seus erros. A dictadura portuguêsa fez sofrer muitos portuguêses. Portugal Salazar só via as colónias portuguêsas na Africa.

A diferênça que eu vejo hoje com o fácismo Portugal era um país rico,com muitos portuguêses pobres.Hoje vejo Portugal democrático cheio de politicos que são uns parasitas e Portugal continua a ter portuguêses pobres. Amigo desculpa o meu latim Portugal saiu da merda do facismo e entrou na merda do fácismo capitalista, a exploração com o trabalho ainda existe em Portugal,exemplos reais temos imigrantes da Russia da Ucrânia da Roménia que trabalham muitas horas e são mal pagos,os imigrantes aceitam porque estão clandestinos em Portugal a merda é similar a U.S.A como na França Alemanha Inglaterra etc.

Amigo os países mais ricos,são os países que tem a sua população a viverem na merda.Venezuela Angola Iraque Libia etc.etc.

Socialismo Democracia Comunismo Dictadura é tudo a mesma merda.

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Speaking of Portuguese justice, many Portuguese politicians say that Portugal spends a lot of money on justice, as lawyers and judges are stealing money that belongs to the Portuguese people. Today a Portuguese killer in prison he is a star is famous, kill and then write books. Portugal had a cheap justice, if the laws were to castrate pedophiles cut their hands or fingers to all thieves starting with political lawyer judges and have the death penalty with murderers, I am against life imprisonment, it is very expensive to have than give bedding fresh food to a murderer, who was cheaper to be killed.
Attention nobody is free to go to a prison, each case is a case. To kill for pleasure I wish death, who steals millions of euros to the Portuguese I want to cut hands to pedophiles castrate. Portugal with these laws was a safe country.

Live to freedom yes it is true, but freedom has to have limits, starting with education, a citizen has his rights but the same citizen has to have duties with society in order to claim his rights as a citizen.

A Portuguese expression. Without grapes there is no wine.


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Falar da justiça portuguêsa,muitos politicos portuguêses dizem que Portugal gasta muito dinheiro com a justiça,pois fica andam os advogados e juizes a roubar o dinheiro que pertençe ao povo português. Hoje um assassino português na prisão ele é uma estrêla é famoso,matam e a seguir escrevem livros. Portugal tinha uma justiça barata,se as leis fosse castrar os pedófilos cortar as mãos ou os dedos a todos os ladrões a começar por politicos advogados juizes e ter a pena de morte com os assassinos,eu sou contra a prisão perpétua,fica muito caro ter que dar cama roupa lavada comida a um assassino,que ficava mais barato ser morto.
Atênção ninguem está livre de ir parar a uma prisão,cada caso é um caso. Matar por prazer eu desejo a morte,a quem rouba milhões de euros aos portuguêses desejo que cortem as mãos aos pedófilos castrar. Portugal com estas leis era um país seguro.

Viva á liberdade sim é verdade,mas a liberdade tem que ter limites,a começar pela educação, um cidadão tem os seus direitos mas o mesmo cidadão tem que ter deveres com a sociedade,para poder reclamar os seus direitos como cidadão.

Uma expressão portuguêsa.Sem uva não existe vinho.

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Another Portuguese expression that has to do with the politics of Portugal

(Expression. Who always fucks is the Mussel




Mexilhão - Mussel

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Mais uma expressão portuguêsa que tem a ver com a politica de Portugal

( Expressão. Quem se fode sempre é o Mexilhão
About to Capsize, Lisbon Lists to the Left

The leading Liberals in America inherited the wealth needed to buy elections. Three grandsons of John D. Rockefeller, who started the oil business, were Liberal governors and one of them even became Vice President under Gerald Ford. (Ford wasn't related to Henry Ford, but it would have been typical if he had been).

In addition to unearned inherited wealth controlling our republic, the sons and even now the daughters (the controlling reason behind Feminism) of politicians inherit the Parties' candidacies. Our most powerful female politician, Nancy Pelosi, is the daughter of a former mayor of Baltimore. Proving that a republic is the opposite of a democracy, her brother inherited her father's office.


No matter what the fidalgos tell you it is, democracy is the absolute rule of the majority, voting in referendums and not through "representatives," who only represent the will of the hereditary 1%. This tyranny of birth infests our system and ought to be legislated against, just as term-limits was. But Pelosi's unearned advantage in politics is never even mentioned. I doubt if Portugal is any different, since it has the same symptoms we see here. Check out who were the fathers of your corrupt Liberals.

The Prime Minister of Canada is the son of a previous Prime Minister. Aristocracy and democracy cannot co-exist, so we have yet to see a democratic country in all of world history. In fact, our media even change the meaning of aristocracy. They claim a famous basketball player is one of the "aristocrats" of his league, so his opinions on it matter. By that, they mean "one of the best players of all time." But only his sons and grandsons are aristocrats, and their opinions on anything at all aren't worth anything. But unearned money talks, and that's all we hear, which is endlessly recited on these message boards.