Is it Honorable to Join the Police Force, Naive, or Other?

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I actually agree with Jimmyb's post, on the previous page--(essentially) any job can be honorable as long as the person doing it is one of integrity and performs the task to the best of their ability/excels at it. Likewise, you could have someone in a very respectable field, who is a complete liability to the mission or may even be the opposite of the job is supposed to be.
Adolph Eichmann considered himself an honorable, patriotic German! And he performed his task of killing large groups of people quickly and efficiently......so, any job can be honorable!

Now, as for this topic, it is not that I am trying to "rank" them, more that those who take bigger personal risks in order to keep society functioning are deserving of (generally) proportionately more recognition and support.
They, like the members of the military are getting adulation because authoritarians want people to glorify the forces that enforce the state's laws and rules and foreign policies.
 
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Adolph Eichmann considered himself an honorable, patriotic German! And he performed his task of killing large groups of people quickly and efficiently......so, any job can be honorable!


They, like the members of the military are getting adulation because authoritarians want people to glorify the forces that enforce the state's laws and rules and foreign policies.
try to imagine what you life would be like without them
 
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try to imagine what you life would be like without them
This is why they have so much success instilling fear in the general population. If you are a Hobbesian and believe people are basically animals who will kill or rob others if there is no civil authority stopping them, then they can blackmail you every time they want to negotiate with City Hall (in the case of police forces) or the Feds (when it comes to the Generals and arms contractors.

In actual fact, during times of disaster...when there's no electricity, running water or cops around, the opposite thing happens, people are at their best and working together....just as they did in earlier times before an oppressive state apparatus was there to burden us down.

How the Stress of Disaster Brings People Together

Ever feel that stress makes you more cranky, hot-headed or irritable? For men in particular, we think of stress as generating testosterone-fueled aggression – thus instances of road rage, or the need to “blow off steam” after work with a trip to the gym or a bar. On the other hand, in circumstances of extreme stress such as during natural disasters like Hurricane Sandy, we hear moving accounts of people going out of their way to help others. Hurricane Sandy has led to a flourish of supportive tweets and Facebook messages directed to people on the East Coast. The tsunami in Asia a couple of years ago led to a huge influx of financial support to help afflicted areas. Many who lived in New York City during 9/11 remember that, for a few days afterward, the boundaries and class divisions between people dissolved: people greeted each other on the street and were more considerate, sensitive to each other, and gentle than normal.​
The classic view is that, under stress, men respond with "fight or flight,” i.e. they become aggressive or leave the scene, whereas women are more prone to “tend and befriend,” as has been shown in research by Shelley Taylor. A new study by Markus Heinrichs and Bernadette von Dawans at the University of Freiburg, Germany, however, suggests that acute stress may actually lead to greater cooperative, social, and friendly behavior, even in men. This more positive and social response could help explain the human connection that happens during times of crises, a connection that may be responsible, at least in part, for our collective survival as a species.​
How the Stress of Disaster Brings People Together
 

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