Ivanka Trump used personal email account for government business

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1. Carol D. Leonnig is an investigative reporter at The Washington Post, where she has worked since 2000. She won the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for her work on security failures and misconduct inside the Secret Service.

Josh Dawsey is a White House reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017. He previously covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal.

The following are excerpts from an article by Carol D. Leonnig and Josh Dawsey, dated November 19, 2018, under the headline "Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of emails about government business last year".

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Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules, according to people familiar with a White House examination of her correspondence.

White House ethics officials learned of Trump’s repeated use of personal email when reviewing emails gathered last fall by five Cabinet agencies to respond to a public records lawsuit. That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner.

The discovery alarmed some advisers to President Trump, who feared that his daughter’s practices bore similarities to the personal email use of Hillary Clinton, an issue he made a focus of his 2016 campaign. He attacked his Democratic challenger as untrustworthy and dubbed her “Crooked Hillary” for using a personal email account as secretary of state.

Some aides were startled by the volume of Ivanka Trump’s personal emails — and taken aback by her response when questioned about the practice. She said she was not familiar with some details of the rules, according to people with knowledge of her reaction.....

Austin Evers, executive director of the liberal watchdog group American Oversight, whose record requests sparked the White House discovery, said it strained credulity that Trump’s daughter did not know that government officials should not use private emails for official business.

“There’s the obvious hypocrisy that her father ran on the misuse of personal email as a central tenet of his campaign,” Evers said. “There is no reasonable suggestion that she didn’t know better. Clearly everyone joining the Trump administration should have been on high alert about personal email use.”

Ivanka Trump and her husband set up personal emails with the domain “ijkfamily.com” through a Microsoft system in December 2016, as they were preparing to move to Washington so Kushner could join the White House, according to people familiar with the arrangement....

Trump used her personal account to discuss government policies and official business fewer than 100 times — often replying to other administration officials who contacted her through her private email, according to people familiar with the review.

Another category of less-substantive emails may have also violated the records law: hundreds of messages related to her official work schedule and travel details that she sent herself and personal assistants who cared for her children and house, they said.....

Using personal emails for government business could violate the Presidential Records Act, which requires that all official White House communications and records be preserved as a permanent archive of each administration. It can also increase the risk that sensitive government information could be mishandled or hacked, revealing government secrets and risking harm to diplomatic relations and secret operations.

Revelations about Clinton's personal email system led to an FBI investigation of whether she had mishandled classified information...

During the campaign, Donald Trump said the Democratic nominee's "corruption is on a scale we have never seen before" and called her personal email use "bigger than Watergate.".... (End excerpts)

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...469f1166f9d_story.html?utm_term=.a89345354b56
 
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Didn’t we already know this?
What's the point of you knowing after all? It's very funny that it is still "NATO", that is, "No Actions, Talk Only". In 2016, Trump made a big farce about the use of personal email account for government business by "Crooked Hillary" in every election rally, but now he pretends to be deaf and blind to his daughter's wrongdoing.
 
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it is not Illegal unless she emailed classified information

Exclusive: Ivanka Trump used a personal email account after inauguration

“Incidental use of a personal email is not that big a deal,” says Andy Wright, an associate professor at Savannah Law School who served as associate counsel to former President Barack Obama and is a founding editor of the online forum Just Security. “But if you’re using it as a separate infrastructure to try and avoid scrutiny, that becomes obviously a lot more problematic. I think we’re still waiting to see how much this was relied on as an alternate means of communication to avoid the system, versus incidental use.” (Newsweek has published articles by Wright.)

Remember Hillary used her Personal Email exclusively. If you use personal email the emails are to be open to FOIA requsts.

Hillary Deleted Government Emails, violating the law because the emails were deleted and not open for FOIA requests.

that is the Differences in Ivanka and Hillary's account use.
 
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2. The following are excerpts from Jack Holmes' November 20, 2018 article headined "Ivanka Trump Is Just Another Wannabe American Oligarch in Her Father's Orbit" with the subheading "Yeah, she used private email. But she also has a viper's nest of conflicts-of-interest."

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...Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules...White House ethics officials learned of Trump’s repeated use of personal email when reviewing emails gathered last fall by five Cabinet agencies to respond to a public records lawsuit. That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner....

Some aides were startled by the volume of Ivanka Trump’s personal emails — and taken aback by her response when questioned about the practice. She said she was not familiar with some details of the rules, according to people with knowledge of her reaction.

She's uX-XXXXXXg-familiar? All we heard for a year and a half was that using private email in office was borderline treasonous. She went to her father's rallies. She was there at the Republican National Convention. There isn't a chance in hell she's unfamiliar with the perils of private email use. Dishonesty is in this family's blood. It's coursing through their veins. It's worth noting here that Ivanka is not just The First Daughter—she's a senior adviser to the president. She seems to assume whichever role is more convenient for each media report.

You can rest assured, though, that there will be no repercussions for this. Hypocrisy is dead. You can tell because Ivanka Trump is at least the seventh (7th) Trump administration official to get caught using private email for government business....

Members of the Trump administration who have used personal email to conduct official business:

1) Ivanka Trump
2) Jared Kushner
3) Steve Bannon
4) Stephen Miller
5) Reince Priebus
6) Gary Cohn

The shameless hypocrisy of these people never ceases to amaze me....

Again: none of these people actually care about email or security protocol. It's just a cudgel to be used against political opponents. These are the people who slammed Clinton's emails on the basis she mishandled classified information—an unsettled claim—and then made a mockery of the security-clearance system, shoveling classified information towards people who failed to clear FBI background checks. They don't care.

Still, the Ivanka case is worth lingering on. The New York Times hints at why:

Current and former White House officials have said it was characteristic of a repeated blurring of the lines between her government work and other aspects of her life, which used to include her namesake licensing and apparel businesses.

And here's where we really get into it. Like her father and everyone else who comes greasing into his orbit, Ivanka Trump has seen enormous personal financial benefits to serving in public office. This is not a debatable point, even after her fashion brand went under....

Ivanka made $3.9 million from the family's DC hotel in 2017 -- the hotel that is supposed to remit profits to the Treasury, hosts foreign diplomats, and which is the target of lawsuits alleging POTUS is violating emoluments provisions of the Constitution.

Remember when the president pretended to divest from his businesses, holding a press conference with a pile of Definitely Not Empty manila folders before passing control to his sons, who quickly admitted they'd be updating him regularly on how it was all going? Remember when his hotel became the shining beacon at the center of the new swamp, a place for foreign dignitaries to curry favor with the President of the United States by putting money in his pocket? And remember when Ivanka applied for a bunch of trademarks in China and was granted them shortly before her father embarked on a campaign to save a Chinese company? You might be a bit confused because Ivanka's company was also granted 16 new patents in China just this month.

...Is it because the Saudis are putting money in his pocket? What is Jared Kushner's relationship with the crown prince? What is informing the president's reliable friendliness towards Russia? Why, throughout all this, does he refuse to release his tax returns? What would they reveal? All of this is evidence of why conflicts-of-interest matter for public officials in a functioning democracy.

No, Ivanka Trump is merely another would-be American oligarch in her father's sordid orbit. It's now increasingly clear that when Donald Trump improbably won the presidency, a great many people took it as a green light to smash the glass and grab everything you can. That's how you get the various Cabinet officials who are tied to investment schemes and who stand accused of stealing more than $120 million from their business partners. It's how you get many of the same folks spending millions in taxpayer cash on private jet flights, and operating as an arm of the industries they're purportedly supposed to regulate. It's a Great American Heist, and everybody's trying to secure their share of the spoils. Will they make off with the American republic while they're at it? (End excerpts)

Source: Ivanka Trump Used Private Email for Government Business - Another Trump Official With Conflicts of Interest
 
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it is not Illegal unless she emailed classified information

Exclusive: Ivanka Trump used a personal email account after inauguration

“Incidental use of a personal email is not that big a deal,” says Andy Wright, an associate professor at Savannah Law School who served as associate counsel to former President Barack Obama and is a founding editor of the online forum Just Security. “But if you’re using it as a separate infrastructure to try and avoid scrutiny, that becomes obviously a lot more problematic. I think we’re still waiting to see how much this was relied on as an alternate means of communication to avoid the system, versus incidental use.” (Newsweek has published articles by Wright.)

Remember Hillary used her Personal Email exclusively. If you use personal email the emails are to be open to FOIA requsts.

Hillary Deleted Government Emails, violating the law because the emails were deleted and not open for FOIA requests.

that is the Differences in Ivanka and Hillary's account use.
Didn't she email classified information? Was it “incidental" use of a personal email?

Please refer to the following excerpts from the article at Ivanka Trump Used Private Email for Government Business - Another Trump Official With Conflicts of Interest

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...Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules...White House ethics officials learned of Trump’s repeated use of personal email when reviewing emails gathered last fall by five Cabinet agencies to respond to a public records lawsuit. That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner....

Again: none of these people actually care about email or security protocol. It's just a cudgel to be used against political opponents. These are the people who slammed Clinton's emails on the basis she mishandled classified information—an unsettled claim—and then made a mockery of the security-clearance system, shoveling classified information towards people who failed to clear FBI background checks. They don't care.... (End excerpts)
 
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@reedak It is not illegal or violates the law to use personal email for government business..

What is ILLEGAL is to DELETE them, you know by WIPING your server with a Cloth name BLEACH BIT.
 
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Didn't she email classified information? Was it “incidental" use of a personal email?

Please refer to the following excerpts from the article at Ivanka Trump Used Private Email for Government Business - Another Trump Official With Conflicts of Interest

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...Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules...White House ethics officials learned of Trump’s repeated use of personal email when reviewing emails gathered last fall by five Cabinet agencies to respond to a public records lawsuit. That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner....

Again: none of these people actually care about email or security protocol. It's just a cudgel to be used against political opponents. These are the people who slammed Clinton's emails on the basis she mishandled classified information—an unsettled claim—and then made a mockery of the security-clearance system, shoveling classified information towards people who failed to clear FBI background checks. They don't care.... (End excerpts)

Actually it was not inviolation of rules, See post where this was addressed by Obama's very own Associate Counsel.

you see the emails and if the Emails are not classified, and available for FOIA requests, they are not a danger to National Security.

Where on the other hand was not the case with our former SOS>
 
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@reedak It is not illegal or violates the law to use personal email for government business...
Are you sure? Please refer to the excerpts from the following article:

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Using personal emails for government business could violate the Presidential Records Act, which requires that all official White House communications and records be preserved as a permanent archive of each administration. It can also increase the risk that sensitive government information could be mishandled or hacked, revealing government secrets and risking harm to diplomatic relations and secret operations. (End excerpts)

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...469f1166f9d_story.html?utm_term=.f8ce5afcbbc2
 
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@reedak It is not illegal or violates the law to use personal email for government business.....
Please refer to more information at Ivanka Trump Used Her Personal Email to Conduct Government Business

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Austin Evers, executive director of watchdog group American Oversight (the group whose FOIA request sparked the investigation) said in a statement: "The president’s family is not above the law, and there are serious questions that Congress should immediately investigate. Did Ivanka Trump turn over all of her emails for preservation as required by law? Was she sending classified information over a private system. For more than two years, President Trump and senior leaders in Congress have made it very clear that they view the use of personal email servers for government business to be a serious offense that demands investigation and even prosecution, and we expect the same standard will be applied in this case." (End excerpts)
 
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