Jared, Ivanka accused of using personal email to conduct official business

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Uh..... Hillary???

Kushner accused of using WhatsApp, personal email to conduct official business: report
The House Oversight and Reform Committee has obtained information that senior White House adviser and President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushnerhas used WhatsApp and his personal email to conduct official government business.​
Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) wrote in a letter to White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Thursday that the panel gained confirmation from Kushner’s attorney Abbe Lowell in December of last year that Kushner "continues to use" the encrypted message service for government business.​
The panel is inquiring whether Kushner, his wife Ivanka Trump, and other members of the Trump administration may have violated the Presidential Records Act.​
Cummings also blasted the White House for failing to provide his committee with documents that he says he has repeatedly requested.​
"The White House's failure to provide documents and information is obstructing the Committee's investigation into allegations of violations of federal records laws by White House officials," Cummings wrote.​
"In fact, as you know, the White House has not produced a single piece of paper to the Committee in the 116th Congress—in this or any other investigation," he continued.​

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Ivanka is doing it too, and not forwarding her government business emails to whereever they are supposed to for record keeping.
 
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Is that another opinion?
Yeah, their lawyer's opinion....

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts
for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says
WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee revealed information on Thursday that he said showed Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner used private messaging services for official White House business in a way that may have violated federal records laws.​
The chairman, Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, said that a lawyer for Ms. Trump, President Trump’s daughter, and Mr. Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, told the committee late last year that in addition to a private email account, Mr. Kushner uses an unofficial encrypted messaging service, WhatsApp, for official White House business, including with foreign contacts.​
Mr. Cummings said the lawyer, Abbe Lowell, also told lawmakers that Ms. Trump did not preserve some emails sent to her private account if she did not reply to them.​
Democrats have barely been able to contain their frustration at what they see as a dark irony in the findings — and in earlier news reports about the couple’s use of private email accounts. Mr. Trump made Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state a central line of attack in his 2016 campaign for president. Even after the F.B.I. declined to charge Mrs. Clinton for her practices and handling of classified information, Republicans in Congress have continued to pick away at the case.​

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says
 
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Yeah, their lawyer's opinion....

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts
for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says
WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee revealed information on Thursday that he said showed Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner used private messaging services for official White House business in a way that may have violated federal records laws.​
The chairman, Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, said that a lawyer for Ms. Trump, President Trump’s daughter, and Mr. Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, told the committee late last year that in addition to a private email account, Mr. Kushner uses an unofficial encrypted messaging service, WhatsApp, for official White House business, including with foreign contacts.​
Mr. Cummings said the lawyer, Abbe Lowell, also told lawmakers that Ms. Trump did not preserve some emails sent to her private account if she did not reply to them.​
Democrats have barely been able to contain their frustration at what they see as a dark irony in the findings — and in earlier news reports about the couple’s use of private email accounts. Mr. Trump made Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state a central line of attack in his 2016 campaign for president. Even after the F.B.I. declined to charge Mrs. Clinton for her practices and handling of classified information, Republicans in Congress have continued to pick away at the case.​

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says

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Yeah, their lawyer's opinion....

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts
for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says
WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee revealed information on Thursday that he said showed Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner used private messaging services for official White House business in a way that may have violated federal records laws.​
The chairman, Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, said that a lawyer for Ms. Trump, President Trump’s daughter, and Mr. Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, told the committee late last year that in addition to a private email account, Mr. Kushner uses an unofficial encrypted messaging service, WhatsApp, for official White House business, including with foreign contacts.​
Mr. Cummings said the lawyer, Abbe Lowell, also told lawmakers that Ms. Trump did not preserve some emails sent to her private account if she did not reply to them.​
Democrats have barely been able to contain their frustration at what they see as a dark irony in the findings — and in earlier news reports about the couple’s use of private email accounts. Mr. Trump made Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state a central line of attack in his 2016 campaign for president. Even after the F.B.I. declined to charge Mrs. Clinton for her practices and handling of classified information, Republicans in Congress have continued to pick away at the case.​

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Use Private Accounts for Official Business, Their Lawyer Says
I’m starting to think Cummings is not the the right person for the job. He’s already squandered 2 months of the 24 month term. Were these Democrats not made aware of the fact they were elected to play hardball with this administration during the campaign?

I don’t want any of these committee “requesting” anything. They should be soubpoenaing everything, in the most aggressive, ang unapologetic way possible. They are dealing with unapologetic criminals and they should be treating them that way.

Looks like some primaries are in order for some of these older Dems that have gotten soft, and elect a whole new crop of AOC types. Hey Cummings, another week just ended. What’s your plan for next week?
 
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(one word comes to mind= hypocrisy)

Cummings: Ivanka Trump not saving all official email

WASHINGTON (AP) — Ivanka Trump, the president's daughter and a powerful White House aide, is not preserving all of her official email communications as required by federal law, the chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee said on Thursday.

Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said in a letter that Trump's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, informed the committee late last year that Trump doesn't preserve official emails she receives in her personal account if she doesn't respond to them. Cummings says that appears to violate the Presidential Records Act.

But just hours later, Lowell issued a letter of his own disputing Cummings' characterization of some of his comments. Lowell said he was referring to Trump's email use before September 2017 and that he told committee staff that now "she always forwards official business to her White House account."

The dispute arose as Cummings raised the latest concern about the use of private email and messaging applications to conduct official White House business. It also details the use of the messaging application WhatsApp by Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and of personal email accounts by other former senior White House aides that Cummings says "raises additional security and federal records concerns." Some of those communications involved a proposal to transfer U.S. nuclear power technology to Saudi Arabia…
 
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JARED KUSHNER'S USING WHATSAPP FOR WHITE HOUSE BUSINESS
IS 'FAR MORE EGREGIOUS' THAN HILLARY CLINTON'S EMAILS,
CYBERSECURITY EXPERT SAYS
Jared Kushner’s alleged use of WhatsApp to talk about White House business with foreign governments was dangerous, a cybersecurity and intelligence expert warned, because it left him exposed to espionage.​
As President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and White House adviser on foreign policy, Kushner has influence on key decisions, such as Middle East policy, and speaks frequently with world leaders on behalf of the administration.​
Ivanka Trump, the president’s eldest daughter, a White House adviser and Kushner’s wife, also used a personal email account for official business, although she said it was primarily logistical and that she switched to a government account when ethics concerns were raised.​
During a discussion about the Kushner WhatsApp news on MSNBC’s The 11th Hour, Clint Watts, a former FBI special agent and a cybersecurity expert, noted a story in The New York Timesabout “internet mercenaries” selling their hacking skills to foreign governments.​
Watts told The 11th Hour that these private security companies were now targeting people "in their communications at the point of origin—at the phone."​
He continued: "This is what it's about now. It's not about this intercepting en route. It's about companies now that have the ability—and this is well-known in cybersecurity circles, I hear about it all the time—going in and targeting anyone's phone and being able to tap into those communications. We cannot have this."​
Watts, a senior fellow at George Washington University's Center for Cyber and Homeland Security, drew a comparison with the Trump campaign's attacks on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private server for official emails.​
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“We heard 'emails, lock her up, emails, lock her up,'” Watts told MSNBC. “To me [Kushner’s alleged use of WhatsApp] is far more egregious. This is foreign business interactions and, by the way, it's being blocked from other parts of the U.S. government. This means foreign leaders have a better understanding about what the White House is communicating than our own intelligence community, our own law enforcement, and our own allies.​
“This puts us in a very dangerous position because as an executive branch, or legislative branch, we really don't know what's going on at the top. And we have no oversight of it.”​
House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat, sent a letter to White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Thursday alleging that Kushner "has used—and continues to use—WhatsApp as part of his official duties in the White House.”​
Cummings said Abbe Lowell, Kushner's lawyer, had disclosed the information in December, including Kushner's use of WhatsApp to speak with foreign leaders.​
Kushner's use of WhatsApp "far more egregious" than Clinton’s emails: Cybersecurity expert

But of course, it's not about actual risk for modern right-wingers.
:rolleyes:
That's why they ignore Bush's private email server scandal.
George W. Bush's White House "lost" 22 million emails
Didn't hear any chants to lock him up.
Didn't hear Repubs push, months and years after he left the White House, that he should still be investigated and locked up.
 
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JARED KUSHNER'S USING WHATSAPP FOR WHITE HOUSE BUSINESS
IS 'FAR MORE EGREGIOUS' THAN HILLARY CLINTON'S EMAILS,
CYBERSECURITY EXPERT SAYS​
Jared Kushner’s alleged use of WhatsApp to talk about White House business with foreign governments was dangerous, a cybersecurity and intelligence expert warned, because it left him exposed to espionage.​
As President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and White House adviser on foreign policy, Kushner has influence on key decisions, such as Middle East policy, and speaks frequently with world leaders on behalf of the administration.​
Ivanka Trump, the president’s eldest daughter, a White House adviser and Kushner’s wife, also used a personal email account for official business, although she said it was primarily logistical and that she switched to a government account when ethics concerns were raised.​
During a discussion about the Kushner WhatsApp news on MSNBC’s The 11th Hour, Clint Watts, a former FBI special agent and a cybersecurity expert, noted a story in The New York Timesabout “internet mercenaries” selling their hacking skills to foreign governments.​
Watts told The 11th Hour that these private security companies were now targeting people "in their communications at the point of origin—at the phone."​
He continued: "This is what it's about now. It's not about this intercepting en route. It's about companies now that have the ability—and this is well-known in cybersecurity circles, I hear about it all the time—going in and targeting anyone's phone and being able to tap into those communications. We cannot have this."​
Watts, a senior fellow at George Washington University's Center for Cyber and Homeland Security, drew a comparison with the Trump campaign's attacks on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private server for official emails.​
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“We heard 'emails, lock her up, emails, lock her up,'” Watts told MSNBC. “To me [Kushner’s alleged use of WhatsApp] is far more egregious. This is foreign business interactions and, by the way, it's being blocked from other parts of the U.S. government. This means foreign leaders have a better understanding about what the White House is communicating than our own intelligence community, our own law enforcement, and our own allies.​
“This puts us in a very dangerous position because as an executive branch, or legislative branch, we really don't know what's going on at the top. And we have no oversight of it.”​
House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat, sent a letter to White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Thursday alleging that Kushner "has used—and continues to use—WhatsApp as part of his official duties in the White House.”​
Cummings said Abbe Lowell, Kushner's lawyer, had disclosed the information in December, including Kushner's use of WhatsApp to speak with foreign leaders.​
Kushner's use of WhatsApp "far more egregious" than Clinton’s emails: Cybersecurity expert

But of course, it's not about actual risk for modern right-wingers.
:rolleyes:
That's why they ignore Bush's private email server scandal.
George W. Bush's White House "lost" 22 million emails
Didn't hear any chants to lock him up.
Didn't hear Repubs push, months and years after he left the White House, that he should still be investigated and locked up.
After Trump was elected and it became clear he's a lying narcissist, did you ever choke back your reservations of Jared, and think, well, Ivanka deserves a chance?

Time's up.

Ivanka and Donald Trump’s recent comments
about security clearances haven’t aged well
They said there was no special treatment.
New reports indicate they weren’t telling the truth.
In light of a report from the New York Times that President Donald Trump overruled concerns from the intelligence community and ordered officials to give Jared Kushner a security clearance, comments made in recent interviews by the president and his daughter Ivanka Trump seem especially awkward.​
During an interview conducted less than a month ago with ABC, Ivanka Trump unequivocally rejected a suggestion that she and Kushner received special treatment.​
“The president had had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband’s clearance, zero,” Ivanka said.​
...Ivanka’s comments now seem even more awkward in light of a new report from CNN that not only did Kushner get special treatment, but she did too.​
Trump “pressured his then-chief of staff John Kelly and White House counsel Don McGahn to grant his daughter and senior adviser Ivanka Trump a security clearance against their recommendations,” CNN reported on Tuesday evening, citing three people familiar with the matter.​
Concerns about Kushner have included his contacts with Russia. In addition to being the only current White House official who attended the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between top Trump campaign officials and Russians offering dirt on Hillary Clinton, Kushner reportedly tried to set up a secret back channel to the Kremlin during the presidential transition. He has also allegedly tried to leverage his powerful White House role to benefit his family business.​
To cite a representative example, less than two weeks ago, the House Oversight Committee released a report indicating that a Saudi Arabian nuclear power plant project promoted by top White House officials over intelligence community objections would have enriched a company, Brookfield Asset Management, that recently provided financial relief to Kushner’s family.​
Trump’s decision to grant Kushner a clearance reportedly so bothered Kelly that he “wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been ‘ordered’ to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance,” according to the Times. McGahn, then the top White House lawyer, reportedly wrote a separate memo detailing concerns the CIA had about the move.​

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