Journalist Andy Ngo Beaten Up and Hit With Cement by Antifa in Portland

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No. That is not a "form of defense".
I realize that somebody that lies and trolls as much as you do won't understand ethics and morality, but your assessment is absolute horse-excrement.

Just because Proud Boys deserve blame for the fights they start does not in any way mitigate the fact that Ngo's attackers should be arrested, prosecuted and sent to prison.
"Shifting" blame is trying to say that another person's actions LESSEN the culpability on another. Like saying that the Proud Boys' actions LESSEN the inexcusable behavior of Ngo's attackers. I 110% repudiate that assessment.
I am simply acknowledging (unlike you) that there is more to blame than JUST antifa.



ROFLMAO!
You obviously want to talk about MORE THAN JUST the people who attacked Ngo.
After all, the vast majority of antifa members present did not even touch Ngo. They are hardly representative of "leftists".
But there you are trying to lump blame across the board...

It's funny how you want to spread the topic to whatever you want to, but you refuse to acknowledge others are just doing exactly what you did.
If the Proud Boys hadn't explicitly gone to Portland looking to pick a fight, this whole thing wouldn't have happened in the first place.
You are showing your ridiculous partisanship with this thread and your myopic focus on blaming the left while refusing to acknowledge the right's part in this!



You opened w/ this

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The hyperbolic exaggeration needs to stop. The right describe this like antifa are roaming the streets like a pack of wild animals...
And the "Proud Boys"? Not even worth a mention, eh? :rolleyes:'

There is absolutely no need to interject anyone else into the conversation IMO when the people who attacked this kid were clearly antifa and nobody else.

You wish to move the goal posts. How far would you like to move them as it is well established that antifa follows events that are against the political beliefs of the collective around and escalates those events into violence. In fact groups like the proud boys and patriot prayer s rise of attention are a direct result of the mob violence of what is now under the blanket as antifa.
 
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No. That is not a "form of defense".
I realize that somebody that lies and trolls as much as you do won't understand ethics and morality, but your assessment is absolute horse-excrement.

Just because Proud Boys deserve blame for the fights they start does not in any way mitigate the fact that Ngo's attackers should be arrested, prosecuted and sent to prison.
"Shifting" blame is trying to say that another person's actions LESSEN the culpability on another. Like saying that the Proud Boys' actions LESSEN the inexcusable behavior of Ngo's attackers. I 110% repudiate that assessment.
I am simply acknowledging (unlike you) that there is more to blame than JUST antifa.



ROFLMAO!
You obviously want to talk about MORE THAN JUST the people who attacked Ngo.
After all, the vast majority of antifa members present did not even touch Ngo. They are hardly representative of "leftists".
But there you are trying to lump blame across the board...

It's funny how you want to spread the topic to whatever you want to, but you refuse to acknowledge others are just doing exactly what you did.
If the Proud Boys hadn't explicitly gone to Portland looking to pick a fight, this whole thing wouldn't have happened in the first place.
You are showing your ridiculous partisanship with this thread and your myopic focus on blaming the left while refusing to acknowledge the right's part in this!
This sounds so very reminiscent of President Trump saying both sides were to blame in Charlotte on that fateful day
 
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You opened w/ this
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The hyperbolic exaggeration needs to stop. The right describe this like antifa are roaming the streets like a pack of wild animals...
And the "Proud Boys"? Not even worth a mention, eh? :rolleyes:'

There is absolutely no need to interject anyone else into the conversation IMO when the people who attacked this kid were clearly antifa and nobody else.
ROFLMAO!
You only say this cause you don't want to admit how the right has blood on your hands in this situation.
As I have pointed out repeatedly, MULTIPLE PEOPLE WERE HURT on this day. But you only want to talk about the one you can blame on antifa.


You wish to move the goal posts.
And you're afraid that I'm impinging upon your trade-mark? Is that it?


How far would you like to move them as it is well established that antifa follows events that are against the political beliefs of the collective around and escalates those events into violence. In fact groups like the proud boys and patriot prayer s rise of attention are a direct result of the mob violence of what is now under the blanket as antifa.
No.
Nothing you have stated is "well established" or "fact".
The Proud Boys are a group of racists. They were not founded as a response to antifa. They were founded out of an interest in pushing racism.
The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist[9] organization which admits only men as members and promotes political violence.[2][10][11][12] It is based in the United States and has a presence in Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom.[13][14] The group was started in 2016 by Vice Media co-founder and former commentator Gavin McInnes, taking its name from the song "Proud of Your Boy" from the Disney film Aladdin.[15][16] Proud Boys emerged as part of the alt-right, but in early 2017, McInnes began distancing himself from the alt-right, saying the alt-right's focus is race while his focus is what he defines as "Western values". This re-branding effort intensified after the Unite the Right Rally.[17][18]

The group sees men — especially white men — and Western culture as under siege; their views have elements of white genocide conspiracy theory.[19][20][21] While the group claims it does not support white supremacistviews, its members often participate in racist rallies, events, and organizations.[22] The organization glorifies violence, and members engage in violence at events it attends; the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has called it an "alt-right fight club".[22][23][24]
Proud Boys - Wikipedia

But of course, I can understand how the great Sabcat wants to defend racists and pretend they aren't what they really are...
 
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LOL... tell that to somebody who isn't a chickenshit. Unlike Trump, I didn't fake an illness because I was too chickenshit to serve my country. I'm armed, and an expert shot. Stupid Trumpanzees stockpiling more guns than they can use scares me about as much as a 2 year old waving a stick. Also what I find funny is that the Trumpanzees just ASSUME that ALL the guns in the country are owned by rightwing chickenshits like Ted Nugent. I own 3 rifles and a pistol that's banned in California and Colorado and, furthermore, I'm an expert with all of them and have military training. Plus, I'm kind of a mean guy. If I ever find an uninvited guest in my home they will most assuredly end up in my soup pot.
America Belongs Only to Those Born in the White Working Class

The fact that Conservatives were self-centered Chickenhawk frauds back in the 60s implies nothing about what a Traditionalist Populist will do to the Preppy Progressives if he ever realizes that he has no future if he allows this elitist takeover of the specious spectrum to continue much longer. I volunteered for Vietnam because I was true to my beliefs, most of which were merely reactions to the Campus Commie Scum whose rich Daddies pushed them on us in the plutocracy's media.

The real reason you support the Socialite Socialists is that you are a traitor to your class who hates your Daddy for not getting rich and spoiling you. You're also a self-centered Low IQ incapable of realizing that, because you are so untypical, no one should be afraid that you represent any counter-Populist force to be reckoned with.
 
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This sounds so very reminiscent of President Trump saying both sides were to blame in Charlotte on that fateful day
Is that possibly because the walls of your colon are so tightly pressed against your ears that you don't understand the difference between Trump praising white nationalist racists and me criticizing both antifa and Proud Boys?
 
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Is that possibly because the walls of your colon are so tightly pressed against your ears that you don't understand the difference between Trump praising white nationalist racists and me criticizing both antifa and Proud Boys?
I am not sure. I am sure that i do not have to resort to accusing someone of having there head up there ass in a some boorish fashion in order to make up for a lack of intellect. You can either have a civil discourse with me or we can stop. Its your choice.
 
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I am not sure. I am sure that i do not have to resort to accusing someone of having there head up there ass in a some boorish fashion in order to make up for a lack of intellect. You can either have a civil discourse with me or we can stop. Its your choice.
It's not "lack of intellect". :rolleyes:
I'm amused at how you whine about the jab I threw your way while you return fire...
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When somebody makes a ridiculous claim that me criticizing both antifa and Proud Boys is "reminiscent" of Trump praising white nationalist racists, you've demonstrated what type of discussion you want.
 
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It's not "lack of intellect". :rolleyes:
I'm amused at how you whine about the jab I threw your way while you return fire...
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When somebody makes a ridiculous claim that me criticizing both antifa and Proud Boys is "reminiscent" of Trump praising white nationalist racists, you've demonstrated what type of discussion you want.
I merely made an observation. How you took it is your fault and not mine. I also made the observation without insulting you at all.
 
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I merely made an observation. How you took it is your fault and not mine. I also made the observation without insulting you at all.
I hear the Catholic church is going to declare you a Saint for your martyrdom... :rolleyes:
#sarcasm
 
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Violence is bad if attributed correctly to Antifa, but violence is less a concern apparently to Sabcat when it involves the main purveyor of political violence in the US....the extreme Right.
 
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