Leaked Proud Boys Chats Show Members Plotting Violence At Rallies

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The Proud Boys want the public to believe that they’re a “drinking club” who only resort to violence to defend themselves from anti-fascist protesters during political rallies.
But in private, these extremists have discussed injuring and even killing their adversaries, plotting tactics and optics for months in order to assert a claim of self-defense should they face charges.
According to private chat logs obtained exclusively by HuffPost, the punch-happy, pro-Trump street gang was particularly excited for its “Resist Marxism” rally, scheduled for April 6 in Providence, Rhode Island. With the right plan of attack, members said, this one could put them back on the map.
This mother f**ker needs to meet a 7mm [Magnum rifle] from about 500 yards.Proud Boy Shaun Hufton in private chats.​
The group had been floundering ever since 10 of its members were arrested for assaulting protesters outside a GOP event in New York City last year. Their leader, Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, reportedly arranged for his followers’ surrender.
In the chats, covering a time period between February and March of this year, members claimed they needed a conclusive “win” this time around, which they defined as a bloody battle against “antifa” in Providence. If this brawl were bigger and more violent than previous iterations, they might regain some of the street cred and followers they’d lost.
“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” wrote the event’s organizer, Proud Boys member Alan Swinney, in the private chat messages. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough to crush them at some point.”
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The logs contained a revolving door of up to 30 Proud Boys and their allies, including militia members and other “patriots,” as Swinney called them. Those named in this story either publicly identify as members of the Proud Boys or affiliated groups, or have been identified as such in national news stories or by the groups’ leaders.

Looking forward to Providence, members in the private channel were pumped for the opportunity to cause mayhem. One Proud Boy named Anthony Mastrostefano said:
“All I want to do is smash commies too. Actually I’m lying, I’m way past just hitting them. When the time comes I will stop at nothing to fully eradicate them all!”
Leaked Proud Boys Chats Show Members Plotting Violence At Rallies

Anybody who believes "Proud Boys" aren't incredibly guilty of trying to instigate fights (which is exactly what happens when they show up) are just plain deluding themselves.

And note: I am not absolving any blame for those on the other side who engage in the fighting.
What I am doing is pointing out that the Proud Boys are achieving exactly what they want when both they come out swinging against other people and also when other people come out swinging against them.
 
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Perhaps the solution is a fight to the death and the last person standing accidentally trips while in police custody and breaks their neck on the curb.
 
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What a bunch of idiots.
Yeah, yoose idiots are biting on another anonymous source. (yawn) How strange, this shows up right after antifa, who are actually a most facist organization, gets a lot of real, not anonymous, bad press. Even the congressional loons of the left are hiding from that one.
 
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Last Friday, Proud Boys leader Gavin McInnes riled up a crowd of supporters at New York City’s Metropolitan Republican Club with what he played off as a comedy routine: the commemoration and celebration of the 1960 televised assassination of a socialist.
McInnes’ talk kicked off an evening marred by violence. After his remarks ended, Proud Boys streamed onto the street and, just blocks from the original venue, violently beat three protesters. One bragged that he had kicked his victim “right in the fucking head.” “He was a fucking foreigner,” he said. Then he and another Proud Boy congratulated each other with a brotherly embrace.
Last week’s beating generated an exceptional amount of media coverage of the Proud Boys — and led police to announce they’ll be pursuing riot charges against nine of their members. But the behavior on display that night on New York’s Upper East Side was anything but unexpected in light of the group’s recent conduct and, at a broader level, their guiding philosophy. Violence is at the core of their ideology and their primary tool for silencing their political foes.
"We will kill you. That's the Proud Boys in a nutshell."
During his speech at the Metropolitan club, McInnes told the audience that the “Western chauvinist” beliefs he espouses — which overlap almost wholly with President Donald Trump’s — should not be confused as “dictums.” “I’m not enforcing them upon anyone,” he argued. But as the Proud Boys credo goes, violence is “a really effective way to solve problems,” and, according to McInnes, the political left poses an existential threat to the nation’s future. While the Proud Boys leader might not be issuing dictums, he and his reactionary troops are using violence to shut down and punish those whose views conflict with their own and, as was the case with the “foreigner” the group beat on Friday, those they believe do not deserve a place in the body politic.
McInnes has a well documented and long-running record of blatantly promoting violence and making threats. “We will kill you. That’s the Proud Boys in a nutshell. We will kill you,” he said on his Compound Media show in mid-2016. His followers often repeat his calls for violence and seemed especially emboldened this past summer as they participated in a number of large-scale “free speech” rallies across the country.
Portland has seen the most action thanks in large part to Joey Gibson, the leader of the West Coast Proud Boys’ companion group, Patriot Prayer. After a particularly brutal clash there on June 30 between those two groups and antifascist counter-protesters, Proud Boys took to social media to amp each other up for the next brawl planned for Aug. 4. “We’re coming at you,” California Proud Boy Gabe Silva threatened in a Facebook video aimed at members of antifa. “You’re not gonna run your mouth about communism to us without getting smacked.” At a September rally in Austin to support the right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, Tusitala “Tiny” Toese, a Proud Boy from Washington state, repeated the sentiment on stage: “My daddy always tell me, you know, ‘If you can’t talk sense into them, smack some sense into them,’” he said to applause.
At the June 30 rally the Proud Boys found a new hero in Ethan “Rufio Panman” Nordean, who struck a counter-protester in the face so hard he knocked the person unconscious. The Proud Boys immediately turned him into a meme. They promoted video of the violence on social media and even created a commemorative challenge coin featuring an image of Nordean’s punch and sold it on their official online store. McInnes hailed the punch as “the turning point in our war against antifa.” “I honestly think that that knockout is a pivot in the movement, it marks the beginning of the end of antifa, and the beginning of being safe and proud to be Trump.”
Why are the Proud Boys so violent? Ask Gavin McInnes

Soooo many examples...
 
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I'm sorry. Did you have a patent on that?
#sarcasm

The sources are only confirming what you actually see in practice. Proud Boys are here to fight.
Can you name me any peaceful rally they have performed???
Yes right along with all the peaceful atifa rallys.
I'm not advocating the violent activities of any group. You seem to think antifas violence is OK and the proud boys talking about it is cause for them to go to jail. You're a bit skewed.
 
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Either this is sarcastic and you agree Proud Boys are a problem or you claim to have evidence of "peaceful" rallies for Proud Boys and you aren't posting them...

I'm not advocating the violent activities of any group. You seem to think ...
No.
Either you are lying or you are ignorant of my position and feel comfortable making up dumb crap about my position instead of asking. I've already commented on this in another thread to show your claim wrong.
 
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