Life in the former Soviet Union -- have you been lied to?

Dec 2016
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#5
Is much of what you know merely propaganda not truth ?
So, what the hell is your point here? If a video isn't even self-explanatory or provides relevant information concisely, I don't want to be bothered watching someone who only claims to be from Latvia and refers to a book she wrote several years back as a memoir of her life and personal experience during the glasnost years of Gorbachev in the late Soviet Union and the Baltic Independence movements. This may be of some interest to some, but even the author herself tells this clown - Pakman that the Soviet Union was a very large country and her experiences and those of people in Russia or other Soviet states like Kazakhstan may have been very different during the same period....so what is the point here? And who is lying to who?

What I do know from my time growing up and comparing with what I've learned recently, is that a lot of what I was told by Polish, Hungarian, Ukraine and other Soviet refugees who made it to the west and landed in my neighborhood where I was growing up, was that they couldn't be taken at face value either! They were dissidents for many reasons, some older ones even bragged about fighting for the Nazis and I later learned that...unless they could be quickly identified from the lists of accused war criminals, they were free to enter, while any who tried to enter Canada, but were members of the Communist parties could not! So, that's going to give some skewed narratives right there, mostly the claims that the Russians were worse than the Germans during WWII.

I take all the stories about the good, the bad and the ugly that started popping up during the centenary of the Russian Revolution with a grain of salt, cause most of us haven't been aware that the Cold War began in 1917 as former enemies sending millions of soldiers to die on the battlefields of Europe all got together to support a "White Russian" counter-revolution to defeat the Bolsheviks and put the Czar back on the throne in St. Petersburg.

Did the alliance known after it's creation in 1925 as The Soviet Union have a clear, honest chance to build the socialist vision that inspired them? The immediate needs for militarization and infiltration by spies and disruptors meant an immediate paring down of the size of the communist parties, which were originally supposed to include virtually every adult of sound mind and good character, but the 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat' turned into an elite class of warriors as revolts then WWII then the long Cold War with the American Empire made it virtually impossible to create anything close to a 'classless' society.

Is it possible to create a 'worker's paradise' under more ideal conditions? I wouldn't mind finding out, cause it looks like global capitalism has spun us all into a dead end right now!
 
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Sep 2018
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#6
So, what the hell is your point here? If a video isn't even self-explanatory or provides relevant information concisely, I don't want to be bothered watching someone who only claims to be from Latvia and refers to a book she wrote several years back as a memoir of her life and personal experience during the glasnost years of Gorbachev in the late Soviet Union and the Baltic Independence movements. This may be of some interest to some, but even the author herself tells this clown - Pakman that the Soviet Union was a very large country and her experiences and those of people in Russia or other Soviet states like Kazakhstan may have been very different during the same period....so what is the point here? And who is lying to who?

What I do know from my time growing up and comparing with what I've learned recently, is that a lot of what I was told by Polish, Hungarian, Ukraine and other Soviet refugees who made it to the west and landed in my neighborhood where I was growing up, was that they couldn't be taken at face value either! They were dissidents for many reasons, some older ones even bragged about fighting for the Nazis and I later learned that...unless they could be quickly identified from the lists of accused war criminals, they were free to enter, while any who tried to enter Canada, but were members of the Communist parties could not! So, that's going to give some skewed narratives right there, mostly the claims that the Russians were worse than the Germans during WWII.

I take all the stories about the good, the bad and the ugly that started popping up during the centenary of the Russian Revolution with a grain of salt, cause most of us haven't been aware that the Cold War began in 1917 as former enemies sending millions of soldiers to die on the battlefields of Europe all got together to support a "White Russian" counter-revolution to defeat the Bolsheviks and put the Czar back on the throne in St. Petersburg.

Did the alliance known after it's creation in 1925 as The Soviet Union have a clear, honest chance to build the socialist vision that inspired them? The immediate needs for militarization and infiltration by spies and disruptors meant an immediate paring down of the size of the communist parties, which were originally supposed to include virtually every adult of sound mind and good character, but the 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat' turned into an elite class of warriors as revolts then WWII then the long Cold War with the American Empire made it virtually impossible to create anything close to a 'classless' society.

Is it possible to create a 'worker's paradise' under more ideal conditions? I wouldn't mind finding out, cause it looks like global capitalism has spun us all into a dead end right now!
the thing that really makes socialists look like retarded kids i when they makes excuses for systems that sumply wont work.. you have to compete against capitalsim if you cant your system should not be a model it doesnt work move on find a system that does work and stop being a loser
 
Oct 2010
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So, what the hell is your point here? If a video isn't even self-explanatory or provides relevant information concisely, I don't want to be bothered watching someone who only claims to be from Latvia and refers to a book she wrote several years back as a memoir of her life and personal experience during the glasnost years of Gorbachev in the late Soviet Union and the Baltic Independence movements. This may be of some interest to some, but even the author herself tells this clown - Pakman that the Soviet Union was a very large country and her experiences and those of people in Russia or other Soviet states like Kazakhstan may have been very different during the same period....so what is the point here? And who is lying to who?

What I do know from my time growing up and comparing with what I've learned recently, is that a lot of what I was told by Polish, Hungarian, Ukraine and other Soviet refugees who made it to the west and landed in my neighborhood where I was growing up, was that they couldn't be taken at face value either! They were dissidents for many reasons, some older ones even bragged about fighting for the Nazis and I later learned that...unless they could be quickly identified from the lists of accused war criminals, they were free to enter, while any who tried to enter Canada, but were members of the Communist parties could not! So, that's going to give some skewed narratives right there, mostly the claims that the Russians were worse than the Germans during WWII.

I take all the stories about the good, the bad and the ugly that started popping up during the centenary of the Russian Revolution with a grain of salt, cause most of us haven't been aware that the Cold War began in 1917 as former enemies sending millions of soldiers to die on the battlefields of Europe all got together to support a "White Russian" counter-revolution to defeat the Bolsheviks and put the Czar back on the throne in St. Petersburg.

Did the alliance known after it's creation in 1925 as The Soviet Union have a clear, honest chance to build the socialist vision that inspired them? The immediate needs for militarization and infiltration by spies and disruptors meant an immediate paring down of the size of the communist parties, which were originally supposed to include virtually every adult of sound mind and good character, but the 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat' turned into an elite class of warriors as revolts then WWII then the long Cold War with the American Empire made it virtually impossible to create anything close to a 'classless' society.

Is it possible to create a 'worker's paradise' under more ideal conditions? I wouldn't mind finding out, cause it looks like global capitalism has spun us all into a dead end right now!
I really like how you airbrushed Stalin out of the USSR's history.
 

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