Midterms: Poorest states have Republican legislatures, and richest have Democratic ones

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Conventional wisdom has long proclaimed Republicans the party of the rich and Democrats the party of the poor! Forty years ago that was largely true. The poor almost everywhere elected Democrats. That is how most media portray it now.

But media are almost solely big-city based, where the conventional wisdom remains true. Democrats are the party of the urban poor – from Boston to Los Angeles. But at the grassroots level, overall, it isn’t so. Republicans, overall, own America’s low-to-no income vote. Media simply don’t report what they don’t live in and see.

What you see is exactly the reverse of our cultural mythology: Heading into midterms, Republicans are very much the party of the poor and Democrats are the party of the rich. This seemingly sounds nuts. It isn’t. Thirty-two states have Republican-controlled legislatures.

Eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled. New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016). Above New Mexico, you jump all the way to middle of the pack Vermont (27th richest, 24th poorest) to find a state with both legislative chambers held by Democrats.

Midterms: Poorest states have Republican legislatures, and richest have Democratic ones
 
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That's easy, fund education, and you have an educated workforce, and despite what the GOP claims, new, higher paying jobs,require an educated workforce.
That's why new industries start in Massachusetts or California, not Iowa or Tennessee.

It's why old industries, who don't need highly educated workers, move to red states for lower taxes and lower wages for a while, on their way to the third world for even lower taxes and even lower wages.
 
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Conventional wisdom has long proclaimed Republicans the party of the rich and Democrats the party of the poor! Forty years ago that was largely true. The poor almost everywhere elected Democrats. That is how most media portray it now.

But media are almost solely big-city based, where the conventional wisdom remains true. Democrats are the party of the urban poor – from Boston to Los Angeles. But at the grassroots level, overall, it isn’t so. Republicans, overall, own America’s low-to-no income vote. Media simply don’t report what they don’t live in and see.

What you see is exactly the reverse of our cultural mythology: Heading into midterms, Republicans are very much the party of the poor and Democrats are the party of the rich. This seemingly sounds nuts. It isn’t. Thirty-two states have Republican-controlled legislatures.

Eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled. New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016). Above New Mexico, you jump all the way to middle of the pack Vermont (27th richest, 24th poorest) to find a state with both legislative chambers held by Democrats.

Midterms: Poorest states have Republican legislatures, and richest have Democratic ones
Nevermind the Media doesn't venture outside city limits to report on rural areas of America....neither does the Democratic Party....judging from the entrails of the failed Hillary 2016 Campaign! For example, according to the autopsy report, she appeared with Hollywood celebrities in Philly and attended several media events and then went right across the State to Pittsburgh for more rallies! And then they wonder why the hinterland votes Republican!

Obama was likely the end of the line for this symbolic but empty style of governing, and any Republican alternatives have to either settle on being a fringe party of liberals who live off corporate cash or have economic policies that benefit the majority of people (which corporate America doesn't want) and depend on developing a loyal base of supporters instead of getting rich after cashing in their corporate IOU's after leaving office.

Maybe if Democratic candidates were doing what some insurgents are now trying to do....cover the state...even if it's as big as Texas, AND more important- craft and promote policies (like Medicare-For-All) that will appeal to people struggling with bills that include medical debts in many cases. That choice alone will mean fewer corporations sending their lobbyists to put money into Democratic G-Strings, but in hard times, the centrist so-called Third Way Democrats like Clinton and Labourites like Blair over in UK, are the wrong kind of politicians to win elections.

Well, in actual fact they had nothing to offer people falling out of the middle class, so if most voters don't see hardly a damn bit of difference between D's and R's, it shouldn't be a surprise when the Republicans are the only ones motivated to go out to the polls and vote! Worth noting that all of these rural farm states like Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, the Dakotas and others that became Republican strongholds from the growth of the religious right in the 70's, were all formerly Democratic states from the 30's to the 70's! Maybe in the 80's....before Big Ag started driving smaller farmers out of business, they were feeling financially secure in the 80's...as Mr. Conservative Values- Ronnie Reagan made sure to keep signing that multibillion dollar welfare system known as the farm bills from Congress every year...so they could vote on pointless crap like which candidate went to church and which one was going to fight the homosexual takeover of American values....blah, blah, blah! But, if the Dems had an economic message for those declining farm states before, they would have been making breakthroughs in these 'Red' states long ago!
 
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Nevermind the Media doesn't venture outside city limits to report on rural areas of America....neither does the Democratic Party....judging from the entrails of the failed Hillary 2016 Campaign! For example, according to the autopsy report, she appeared with Hollywood celebrities in Philly and attended several media events and then went right across the State to Pittsburgh for more rallies! And then they wonder why the hinterland votes Republican!

Obama was likely the end of the line for this symbolic but empty style of governing, and any Republican alternatives have to either settle on being a fringe party of liberals who live off corporate cash or have economic policies that benefit the majority of people (which corporate America doesn't want) and depend on developing a loyal base of supporters instead of getting rich after cashing in their corporate IOU's after leaving office.

Maybe if Democratic candidates were doing what some insurgents are now trying to do....cover the state...even if it's as big as Texas, AND more important- craft and promote policies (like Medicare-For-All) that will appeal to people struggling with bills that include medical debts in many cases. That choice alone will mean fewer corporations sending their lobbyists to put money into Democratic G-Strings, but in hard times, the centrist so-called Third Way Democrats like Clinton and Labourites like Blair over in UK, are the wrong kind of politicians to win elections.

Well, in actual fact they had nothing to offer people falling out of the middle class, so if most voters don't see hardly a damn bit of difference between D's and R's, it shouldn't be a surprise when the Republicans are the only ones motivated to go out to the polls and vote! Worth noting that all of these rural farm states like Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, the Dakotas and others that became Republican strongholds from the growth of the religious right in the 70's, were all formerly Democratic states from the 30's to the 70's! Maybe in the 80's....before Big Ag started driving smaller farmers out of business, they were feeling financially secure in the 80's...as Mr. Conservative Values- Ronnie Reagan made sure to keep signing that multibillion dollar welfare system known as the farm bills from Congress every year...so they could vote on pointless crap like which candidate went to church and which one was going to fight the homosexual takeover of American values....blah, blah, blah! But, if the Dems had an economic message for those declining farm states before, they would have been making breakthroughs in these 'Red' states long ago!
clinton won the popular vote by three million
 
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Nevermind the Media doesn't venture outside city limits to report on rural areas of America....neither does the Democratic Party....judging from the entrails of the failed Hillary 2016 Campaign! For example, according to the autopsy report, she appeared with Hollywood celebrities in Philly and attended several media events and then went right across the State to Pittsburgh for more rallies! And then they wonder why the hinterland votes Republican!

Obama was likely the end of the line for this symbolic but empty style of governing, and any Republican alternatives have to either settle on being a fringe party of liberals who live off corporate cash or have economic policies that benefit the majority of people (which corporate America doesn't want) and depend on developing a loyal base of supporters instead of getting rich after cashing in their corporate IOU's after leaving office.

Maybe if Democratic candidates were doing what some insurgents are now trying to do....cover the state...even if it's as big as Texas, AND more important- craft and promote policies (like Medicare-For-All) that will appeal to people struggling with bills that include medical debts in many cases. That choice alone will mean fewer corporations sending their lobbyists to put money into Democratic G-Strings, but in hard times, the centrist so-called Third Way Democrats like Clinton and Labourites like Blair over in UK, are the wrong kind of politicians to win elections.

Well, in actual fact they had nothing to offer people falling out of the middle class, so if most voters don't see hardly a damn bit of difference between D's and R's, it shouldn't be a surprise when the Republicans are the only ones motivated to go out to the polls and vote! Worth noting that all of these rural farm states like Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, the Dakotas and others that became Republican strongholds from the growth of the religious right in the 70's, were all formerly Democratic states from the 30's to the 70's! Maybe in the 80's....before Big Ag started driving smaller farmers out of business, they were feeling financially secure in the 80's...as Mr. Conservative Values- Ronnie Reagan made sure to keep signing that multibillion dollar welfare system known as the farm bills from Congress every year...so they could vote on pointless crap like which candidate went to church and which one was going to fight the homosexual takeover of American values....blah, blah, blah! But, if the Dems had an economic message for those declining farm states before, they would have been making breakthroughs in these 'Red' states long ago!
The message may be off I agree, but the proof is in the pudding:

Studies: Democratic politicians represent middle-class voters. GOP politicians don’t.
People need to get a little smarter and do their own research before they vote.
 
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Yes, the democrats have become the party of the global corporations, nation building, legacy media, MIC, federally funded education and numerous other rent seeking institutions. Funny how they just convincing the plebs they are "for the people"
 
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The message may be off I agree, but the proof is in the pudding:

Studies: Democratic politicians represent middle-class voters. GOP politicians don’t.
People need to get a little smarter and do their own research before they vote.
As usual though, Vox is only telling half of the story here. The 'left' insurgent Democratic candidates who....at least some are refusing all corporate bribery attempts/while others refuse offers from banks, oil companies, arms producers etc. are off to a good start....but they don't run the Party! The kleptocrats still run the DNC and DCCC- which selects most of the candidates they want running for office as Dems in America!

Here's a fundamental reason why Republicans are either completely or almost completely bought off now...except maybe for a handful of libertarian cranks like Justin Amash/ while the Democrats still have a likely majority of candidates feeding at the trough...if I take the story today about how much donations to the Democratic Party have increased this cycle!

It would be fine if those billionaires had the same interests and values as the majority of average Americans, but of course they don't! No more than Russian billionaires, Euro-billionaires who finance shit like Macron and Theresa May, or billionaire interests in Asia and Latin America either!

But, not only do the vulture class vote in their best economic interests with their money, most of the billionaires in America are conservatives and social conservatives also!
American Billionaires Are Overwhelmingly Conservative, New Study Finds

So, is it any surprise that the vast majority of Democrats are so bad at defending the values they claim to uphold? If the grassroots democrats can't break the stranglehold of Big Money on their party, they need to give up on this bullshit and let some other alternative rise to the surface. The well-worn excuse that it's impossible to keep 3rd parties on the ballot in enough states doesn't hold any water when the 2nd party keeps losing in largely fraudulent elections and getting gerrymandered into insignificance where the best they can hope for now from the corrupt system is to take back the House and a few governorships. The Senate is a lost cause...the White House also for many of the same reasons and failure to even start anything regarding the Electoral College, and then there's the Supreme Court....the ultimate lost cause! Might be time to try something new at least!
 
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Yes, the democrats have become the party of the global corporations, nation building, legacy media, MIC, federally funded education and numerous other rent seeking institutions. Funny how they just convincing the plebs they are "for the people"
Seems like you smuggled in a few extras in with 'rent-seeking institutions' here! Nevertheless, there is more that unites the two parties of the duopoly than divides them today.