No one wants Trump to declare a National Emergency

Dec 2018
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Can the President declare a state of emergency? Yes. Can he declare it for whatever he wants? No.

But let's say Trump does it (he will), it get's challenged in the courts (it will) and the challenges fail (it may). In this scenario, Trump wins. But is this a good thing for politics? No no no.

Let's create a hypothetical for the January, 2025. A democrat has just been sworn in as President of the United States. The president declares a state of emergency that the Supreme Court is filled with judges that were nominated by a since impeached president. Since the judges are a lifetime appointment they cannot be removed, but the president orders the expansion of the court from 9 to 12, and they nominate only liberal judges.

A week later, 50 children are shot and killed at a school. The president declares a national emergency, creating an assault weapons ban, large magazine ban, universal background checks, etc.

Two weeks later NASA comes out with an updated report on climate change. The president declares a national emergency putting in a carbon tax and requiring 100% use of renewable energy by 2035.

Would all of these national emergencies pass court challenges? No. Could parts of them pass? Yes.

Is this the road people want to go down?
 
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Apr 2013
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Several Republicans wishing to remain anonymous have said that the way out given Lying Trumps stubbornness is to have him declare the emergency and open government, then have the Dems take it to court, get it halted while it churns its way through the legal system and without being pushed could easily get deferred till after 2020.

Reporters from the NYT and WaPo have said this.
 
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Apr 2014
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No one wants Trump to declare a National Emergency


Can the President declare a state of emergency? Yes. Can he declare it for whatever he wants? No.

But let's say Trump does it (he will), it get's challenged in the courts (it will) and the challenges fail (it may). In this scenario, Trump wins. But is this a good thing for politics? No no no.

Let's create a hypothetical for the January, 2025. A democrat has just been sworn in as President of the United States. The president declares a state of emergency that the Supreme Court is filled with judges that were nominated by a since impeached president. Since the judges are a lifetime appointment they cannot be removed, but the president orders the expansion of the court from 9 to 12, and they nominate only liberal judges.

A week later, 50 children are shot and killed at a school. The president declares a national emergency, creating an assault weapons ban, large magazine ban, universal background checks, etc.

Two weeks later NASA comes out with an updated report on climate change. The president declares a national emergency putting in a carbon tax and requiring 100% use of renewable energy by 2035.

Would all of these national emergencies pass court challenges? No. Could parts of them pass? Yes.

Is this the road people want to go down?
Especially Trump. He probably now realizes that it will blow up in his face like a Wile E. Coyote cartoon...which is exactly why I hope the Coward-in-Chief would do it.

 
Apr 2014
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Several Republicans wishing to remain anonymous have said that the way out given Lying Trumps stubbornness is to have him declare the emergency and open government, then have the Dems take it to court, get it halted while it churns its way through the legal system and without being pushed could easily get deferred till after 2020.

Reporters from the NYT and WaPo have said this.
They hope. Nobody controls Trump, not even Trump. He has no control for very long. His 9 minute speech was the exception, not the rule.
 
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Border Wall Poll Results

49% support the wall, 51% oppose the wall Interesting poll outcome 3% of those that oppose the wall, want to militarize the Southern Border, Taking Troops from places like middle east, and having defend the border.

Well IMO using military to stop the invasion should be on the Yes for the wall, because that would be virtual wall having 10s of 1000s of troops manning the border.
 
Dec 2018
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Border Wall Poll Results

49% support the wall, 51% oppose the wall Interesting poll outcome 3% of those that oppose the wall, want to militarize the Southern Border, Taking Troops from places like middle east, and having defend the border.

Well IMO using military to stop the invasion should be on the Yes for the wall, because that would be virtual wall having 10s of 1000s of troops manning the border.
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