Nobel award to Obama was a mistake

imaginethat

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The Nobel losts its relevence a long time ago when politics became the basis for awards.
You wouldn't mind producing the list of politically based Nobel prizes, would you? Here I'll simplify my request. Here are the 2018 prizes. Which demonstrate that politics are the basis for the prizes, and thus why evidently in your opinion all Nobel prizes are thereby irrelevant?

2018
The Nobel Prize in Physics 2018
“for groundbreaking inventions in the field of laser physics”
Arthur Ashkin “for the optical tweezers and their application to biological systems”
Gérard Mourou and Donna Strickland “for their method of generating high-intensity, ultra-short optical pulses”

The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2018
Frances H. Arnold “for the directed evolution of enzymes” and George P. Smith and Sir Gregory P. Winter “for the phage display of peptides and antibodies”

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2018
James P. Allison and Tasuku Honjo
“for their discovery of cancer therapy by inhibition of negative immune regulation”

The Nobel Prize in Literature 2018
The 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature has been postponed.

The Nobel Peace Prize 2018
Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad
“for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict”

The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2018
William D. Nordhaus “for integrating climate change into long-run macroeconomic analysis” and Paul M. Romer “for integrating technological innovations into long-run macroeconomic analysis”
 
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You wouldn't mind producing the list of politically based Nobel prizes, would you? Here I'll simplify my request. Here are the 2018 prizes. Which demonstrate that politics are the basis for the prizes, and thus why evidently in your opinion all Nobel prizes are thereby irrelevant?

2018
The Nobel Prize in Physics 2018

“for groundbreaking inventions in the field of laser physics”
Arthur Ashkin “for the optical tweezers and their application to biological systems”
Gérard Mourou and Donna Strickland “for their method of generating high-intensity, ultra-short optical pulses”

The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2018
Frances H. Arnold “for the directed evolution of enzymes” and George P. Smith and Sir Gregory P. Winter “for the phage display of peptides and antibodies”

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2018
James P. Allison and Tasuku Honjo
“for their discovery of cancer therapy by inhibition of negative immune regulation”

The Nobel Prize in Literature 2018
The 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature has been postponed.

The Nobel Peace Prize 2018
Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad
“for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict”

The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2018
William D. Nordhaus “for integrating climate change into long-run macroeconomic analysis” and Paul M. Romer “for integrating technological innovations into long-run macroeconomic analysis”
Just the Peace Prize.

2012 Nobel Prize to the European Union.

2009 Nobel Prize to Obama.

2007 Nobel Prize to Al Gore.

2012 Nobel Prize to Jimmy Carter.

1994 Nobel Prize to Yasser Arafat.
 
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imaginethat

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Just the Peace Prize.

2012 Nobel Prize to the European Union.

2009 Nobel Prize to Obama.

2007 Nobel Prize to Al Gore.

2012 Nobel Prize to Jimmy Carter.

1994 Nobel Prize to Yasser Arafat.
Typical, you said: "The Nobel losts its relevence a long time ago when politics became the basis for awards."

And now you say, "Just the Peace Prize."

Btw, the 1994 prize went to Arafat, Peres, and Rabin, had something to do with the Oslo Accords:

The agreement called for the implementation of Palestinian self-rule in portions of the West Bank and Gaza Strip over a five-year period, along with an immediate halt to and gradual removal of Israeli settlements in those areas. The accords called for a Palestinian police force to be formed from local recruits and Palestinians abroad, to patrol areas of self-rule. Authority over the various fields of rule, including education and culture, social welfare, direct taxation and tourism, would be transferred to the Palestinian interim government. Both parties agreed also on forming a committee that would establish cooperation and coordination dealing with specific economic sectors, including utilities, industry, trade and communication.[97]

Prior to signing the accords, Arafat—as Chairman of the PLO and its official representative—signed two letters renouncing violence and officially recognizing Israel. In return, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, on behalf of Israel, officially recognized the PLO.[98] The following year, Arafat and Rabin were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, along with Shimon Peres. --- wiki

Yep, some hope briefly flickered, as the the Labor Party's Rabin ended many, many years of hardline Likud governments.

Prior to the signing of the accords, Rabin received a letter from PLO chairman Yasser Arafatrenouncing violence and officially recognizing Israel, and on the same day, 9 September 1993, Rabin sent Arafat a letter officially recognizing the PLO.[40]

After the historical handshake with Yasser Arafat,[45] Rabin said, on behalf of the Israeli people, "We who have fought against you, the Palestinians, we say to you today, in a loud and a clear voice, enough of blood and tears ... enough!"[46]

But even some hope was too much for some Zionists, and the progress made by Arafat, Rabin, and Peres was guillotined by Rabin's assassination. The next time the Zionists, under Ehud Barak, made Arafat an offer, it required relinquishment of East Jerusalem.

Arafat said hell no and the rest is history.

Details, details.
 
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Typical, you said: "The Nobel losts its relevence a long time ago when politics became the basis for awards."

And now you say, "Just the Peace Prize."

Btw, the 1994 prize went to Arafat, Peres, and Rabin, had something to do with the Oslo Accords:

The agreement called for the implementation of Palestinian self-rule in portions of the West Bank and Gaza Strip over a five-year period, along with an immediate halt to and gradual removal of Israeli settlements in those areas. The accords called for a Palestinian police force to be formed from local recruits and Palestinians abroad, to patrol areas of self-rule. Authority over the various fields of rule, including education and culture, social welfare, direct taxation and tourism, would be transferred to the Palestinian interim government. Both parties agreed also on forming a committee that would establish cooperation and coordination dealing with specific economic sectors, including utilities, industry, trade and communication.[97]

Prior to signing the accords, Arafat—as Chairman of the PLO and its official representative—signed two letters renouncing violence and officially recognizing Israel. In return, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, on behalf of Israel, officially recognized the PLO.[98] The following year, Arafat and Rabin were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, along with Shimon Peres. --- wiki

Yep, some hope briefly flickered, as the the Labor Party's Rabin ended many, many years of hardline Likud governments.

Prior to the signing of the accords, Rabin received a letter from PLO chairman Yasser Arafatrenouncing violence and officially recognizing Israel, and on the same day, 9 September 1993, Rabin sent Arafat a letter officially recognizing the PLO.[40]

After the historical handshake with Yasser Arafat,[45] Rabin said, on behalf of the Israeli people, "We who have fought against you, the Palestinians, we say to you today, in a loud and a clear voice, enough of blood and tears ... enough!"[46]

But even some hope was too much for some Zionists, and the progress made by Arafat, Rabin, and Peres was guillotined by Rabin's assassination. The next time the Zionists, under Ehud Barak,w made Arafat an offer, it required relinquishment of East Jerusalem.

Arafat said hell no and the rest is history.

Details, details.

I just used the Peace Prize as an example. It does not matter which prize is used.

Arafat was a PLO terrorist before the Peace Prize and until his death. He was such an undeserving terrorist, Nobel commitee members quit over it.
 

imaginethat

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I just used the Peace Prize as an example. It does not matter which prize is used.

Arafat was a PLO terrorist before the Peace Prize and until his death. He was such an undeserving terrorist, Nobel commitee members quit over it.
Full circle. First: "The Nobel losts its relevence a long time ago when politics became the basis for awards."

Next: Just the Peace Prize.

Then: I just used the Peace Prize as an example. It does not matter which prize is used.

Cool. Since ut does not matter which prize is used, please explain the politics involved in each of these prizes, which makes each irrelevant.

2017

The Nobel Prize in Physics 2017
Rainer Weiss, Barry C. Barish and Kip S. Thorne
“for decisive contributions to the LIGO detector and the observation of gravitational waves”

The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2017
Jacques Dubochet, Joachim Frank and Richard Henderson
“for developing cryo-electron microscopy for the high-resolution structure determination of biomolecules in solution”

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2017
Jeffrey C. Hall, Michael Rosbash and Michael W. Young
“for their discoveries of molecular mechanisms controlling the circadian rhythm”

The Nobel Prize in Literature 2017
Kazuo Ishiguro
“who, in novels of great emotional force, has uncovered the abyss beneath our illusory sense of connection with the world”

The Nobel Peace Prize 2017
International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN)
“for its work to draw attention to the catastrophic humanitarian consequences of any use of nuclear weapons and for its ground-breaking efforts to achieve a treaty-based prohibition of such weapons”

The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2017
Richard H. Thaler
“for his contributions to behavioural economics”

2018

The Nobel Prize in Physics 2018
“for groundbreaking inventions in the field of laser physics”
Arthur Ashkin “for the optical tweezers and their application to biological systems”
Gérard Mourou and Donna Strickland “for their method of generating high-intensity, ultra-short optical pulses”

The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2018
Frances H. Arnold “for the directed evolution of enzymes” and George P. Smith and Sir Gregory P. Winter “for the phage display of peptides and antibodies”

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2018
James P. Allison and Tasuku Honjo
“for their discovery of cancer therapy by inhibition of negative immune regulation”

The Nobel Prize in Literature 2018
The 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature has been postponed.

The Nobel Peace Prize 2018
Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad
“for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict”

The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2018
William D. Nordhaus “for integrating climate change into long-run macroeconomic analysis” and Paul M. Romer “for integrating technological innovations into long-run macroeconomic analysis”

Looking forward to your reply.
 
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