Pence: 'Very disappointing' to see Obama 'become so political'

Sep 2018
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You guys are a hoot. Trump did nothing significant.
The trend lines were the same with Obama and after Obama.
It's like a car is driving along at 30 MPH. At some point, the driver switches from Obama to Trump but we're going the same speed.
And Repubs start crowing that Trump did it...



wow now that i see that how can anyone say obama fuct up?
 
Jul 2008
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Nope.

Here is what is going on. You assumed that you would find some evidence of the brains private insurance that he paid for w/ his vast fortune but could not so you are backpedaling. I could not as i wanted to start a thread on it when he was first convicted of cancer. So either the public healthcare he championed for in his last days of gripping to life was not good enough or he sucked millions of dollars out of it. I am going w/ the state paying for it as it should have.

But go ahead. Ill give you your in.
Nope here is what is going on.
You claimed that McCain drew millions from some nebulous “pool” but actually have no idea how he paid for his medical care. You then took it a step further by claiming that he was the beneficiary of socialized medicine when, as I’ve already shown (and you’ve just admitted to) you have no idea.
Furthermore I’m assuming (and again this is why I was trying to nail you down) that you think “Obamacare” is some form of “public healthcare”. I’m assuming that because you say he championed public health care and the only thing I can think of that McCain did that would be construed “championing public health care” was when he didn’t vote to repeal it.

Now show me where I’m wrong in describing your position.
 
Dec 2013
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Nope here is what is going on.
You claimed that McCain drew millions from some nebulous “pool” but actually have no idea how he paid for his medical care. You then took it a step further by claiming that he was the beneficiary of socialized medicine when, as I’ve already shown (and you’ve just admitted to) you have no idea.
Furthermore I’m assuming (and again this is why I was trying to nail you down) that you think “Obamacare” is some form of “public healthcare”. I’m assuming that because you say he championed public health care and the only thing I can think of that McCain did that would be construed “championing public health care” was when he didn’t vote to repeal it.

Now show me where I’m wrong in describing your position.

Nope. You are pretty spot on, yet you were so confident that i was wrong. I still believe that the brain drained monies from the public pool to pay for a few more months of his shitty life. I would love to be proven wrong on that. I looked into it and couldn't find anything and i am assuming that you cannot either. Thats why you backpeddled and brought the conversation to this point.

You were sooooo confident just a short time ago.
 
Jul 2008
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Nope. You are pretty spot on, yet you were so confident that i was wrong. I still believe that the brain drained monies from the public pool to pay for a few more months of his shitty life. I would love to be proven wrong on that. I looked into it and couldn't find anything and i am assuming that you cannot either. Thats why you backpeddled and brought the conversation to this point.

You were sooooo confident just a short time ago.
You see you are wrong again.

If I’m accurate of my assessment of your position then that is EXACTLY what I was referring to when I said you were wrong.

The first and foremost being that “Obamacare” is a form of public healthcare. It isn’t. It isn’t even close.

The second point is that by thinking Obamacare is a form of public healthcare, which you’ve just admitted to, means you have no clue what the ACA is. You only know what you’ve been told to think. Instead of researching on your own you’ve just lapped up what you were fed like a good little doggie.

This would lead to point number three. McCain wasn’t drawing from some public pool of money that Obamacare set up since there is no such pool. (Again your failure to understand what Obamacare actually is).

IF McCain was drawing from some public pool of money it would have been from Medicare but I sincerely doubt he was using Medicare as the Congressional health insurance plan is superior AND McCain had full veteran benefits.
 
Dec 2013
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You see you are wrong again.

If I’m accurate of my assessment of your position then that is EXACTLY what I was referring to when I said you were wrong.

The first and foremost being that “Obamacare” is a form of public healthcare. It isn’t. It isn’t even close.

The second point is that by thinking Obamacare is a form of public healthcare, which you’ve just admitted to, means you have no clue what the ACA is. You only know what you’ve been told to think. Instead of researching on your own you’ve just lapped up what you were fed like a good little doggie.

This would lead to point number three. McCain wasn’t drawing from some public pool of money that Obamacare set up since there is no such pool. (Again your failure to understand what Obamacare actually is).

IF McCain was drawing from some public pool of money it would have been from Medicare but I sincerely doubt he was using Medicare as the Congressional health insurance plan is superior AND McCain had full veteran benefits.


I am fully aware that the brain was eligible for both VA and congressional insurance which are both also taxpayer funded. And insurance is a "pool" that is how it works and in reality there is no reason other than who he is any insurance company should have approved his treatment. That is the point i am making. If not i would love to know that he paid out of pocket w/ some of that death money that he surely stashed away over all those years
 

imaginethat

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I am fully aware that the brain was eligible for both VA and congressional insurance which are both also taxpayer funded. And insurance is a "pool" that is how it works and in reality there is no reason other than who he is any insurance company should have approved his treatment. That is the point i am making. If not i would love to know that he paid out of pocket w/ some of that death money that he surely stashed away over all those years
Where are those death panels when we need one?
 
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Where are those death panels when we need one?
No doubt, right. I mean socialism cant work w/o them. We need to control the birth rates, the genetics of those born and weigh out the productivity of those who are active and alive.
 

RNG

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Apr 2013
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No doubt, right. I mean socialism cant work w/o them. We need to control the birth rates, the genetics of those born and weigh out the productivity of those who are active and alive.
The only place I know where there are death panels is the US. But they are known as HMOs.
 
Jul 2008
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No doubt, right. I mean socialism cant work w/o them. We need to control the birth rates, the genetics of those born and weigh out the productivity of those who are active and alive.
Actually socialism can work perfectly fine without “death panels”. It’s the free market health insurance model that needs them.