Question for socialists: what is socialism according to you?

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If you are a socialist, please first state that you are a socialist or proponent of socialism, then explain what is socialism according to you. You don't have to state that you are a socialist or proponent of socialism more than once, if you post more than once on this thread.
 
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Not even one response to this question after about 2 weeks?

I don't believe there are no socialists or proponents of socialism on this forum.

What's the problem? Are you guys incapable of explaining your own ideology? Are you guys unwilling to explain it? Either way, I think this itself speaks rather poorly about your cause.
 
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Not even one response to this question after about 2 weeks?

I don't believe there are no socialists or proponents of socialism on this forum.

What's the problem? Are you guys incapable of explaining your own ideology? Are you guys unwilling to explain it? Either way, I think this itself speaks rather poorly about your cause.
I think it speaks rather poorly about you that you can't look up what socialism is in the dictionary. Why do you want other people to do it for you?

Should we start a thread for fascists too, so they can tell us what it means? Or is it possible to look that up in the dictionary as well?

You've gotten no replies because the thread itself is ridiculous.
 
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I think it speaks rather poorly about you that you can't look up what socialism is in the dictionary.
How did you get the idea that I can't look it up? I never said that I'm incapable of looking it up. In fact your assertion is incorrect; I have looked it up & the first time I looked it up was long before I joined this forum. Furthermore, your statement doesn't even make any sense - why would someone who can locate an online forum, can log into an online forum, can start a thread, can read replies, and even can respond to replies in a thread be incapable of looking it up? It takes a higher degree of competency to achieve those tasks than it does to find an online dictionary and look up a word; you're demonstrating that you seem to have failed to make this fairly basic assessment.

I think I've been acquainted with you long enough to know that you're pretty far from being a dumb person, so what's going on here? I think you might just be responding a little too emotionally.

Why do you want other people to do it for you?
That's not what I'm asking; that's the opposite of what I'm looking for. I want - to reiterate - for those who identify as socialists to explain what it means to them, in their own words. If they provide me with the dictionary definition, then they're providing me with something I can and have done for myself, thus would have no need to ask for such a thing in the first place.

Should we start a thread for fascists too, so they can tell us what it means?
Irrelevant & pointless. Had the question been about finding out what fascism is to those who identify as fascists & what fascism is to those who do not identify as fascism, it would've been analogous & consistent with what I am asking with socialism.

Or is it possible to look that up in the dictionary as well?
Yes, it is possible to look fascism up in the dictionary. I think it speaks rather poorly about you that you can't look up what fascism is in the dictionary.

See how these games work? I can also take what you said and spin it out of context. I'm not actually interested in playing these games, though; I'm trying to understand what drives proponents of socialism to advocate it. When I get these sort of games instead of something sincere, motivated by good faith, well intentioned from proponents of socialism, all it does is encourage me and everyone else reading this who isn't a proponent of socialism to increasingly oppose it. The absense of any discussion on socialism on this thread does a disservice to this cause; I myself am not trying to have such a disservice done to it, but I can't help it when it does it to itself.

You've gotten no replies because the thread itself is ridiculous.
Ok, so why is it ridiculous? Is it ridiculous for someone who isn't a proponent of something to try to understand why those who are proponents of that something became or chose to be proponents of it?

Actions speak louder than words. The actions of those who identify as socialists fit the definition that's given for fascism. Both fascism and socialism (assuming they're 2 different things) involve being emotional, hostile, contemptuous, dishonest, and even violent by its proponents, rather than applying the scientific method, being objective, honest, logical, and trying to be friendly & peaceful about it.
 
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I think it speaks rather poorly about you that you can't look up what socialism is in the dictionary. Why do you want other people to do it for you?

You've gotten no replies because the thread itself is ridiculous.
Issue is, and I'd like to know to, what definition do those here who seem to want to be socialists but really aren't. Book definitions are good but what do you think you are?

There are no replies either because those here who seem to agree and defend socialist policies are either afraid to commit or really don't know where they are on the scale.

As for creating a Fascist thread, it would just create another echo chamber for the lefties. Not only that but they loons have almost got the thread redirected anyhow.
 
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You are asking for opinions--not facts. Socialism is an ideology-- goals on how society should be organized and methods of the most appropriate ways to achieve that organization.

Socialism has been defined. That is a fact. It's a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The business dictionary defines socialism as An economic system in which goods and services are provided through a central system of cooperative and/or government ownership rather than through competition and a free market system.

Read more: What is socialism? definition and meaning - BusinessDictionary.com
 

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