Remember When Three of Obama's Former Secretaries of Defense Blasted Him?

Mar 2018
747
255
Rosebud
#1
Nah. But it happened, though no one fainted over it as far as I know, unlike the fainting spells many on the left had when Mattis left. The left, so funny, yet so dangerous.


...

Obama’s first secretary of defense, Robert Gates, resigned without incident in 2011, but would later criticize Obama’s role as commander in chief in his memoir published a few years later. It revealed a troubled relationship between Obama and the Pentagon:

...

In 2013, Obama’s second secretary of defense, Leon Panetta, resigned after less than two years on the job over frustrations with Obama. Panetta also wrote a memoir revealing disturbing details about his time in the Obama administration, and told of Obama’s repeated decisions to ignore his advice, citing specifically “the withdrawal of all troops from Iraq in 2011, the failure to intervene in Syria’s civil war by arming rebels and the abrupt reversal of Mr. Obama’s decision to strike Syria in retaliation for using chemical weapons on civilians.”

In 2014, shortly after the midterm elections that saw Republicans take control of the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama fired Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel over, you guessed it, policy and strategy disagreements. Hagel said in an interview a year later that the Obama White House tried to “destroy” him and that they had no strategy for fixing Syria.

More disturbing than anything that has come out thus far regarding Mattis’s resignation is that Obama’s fiercest critics of his foreign policy and military strategy have been his secretaries of defense. In April 2016, all three of Obama’s former secretaries of defense at the time—Gates, Panetta, and Hagel—blasted Obama in interviews for a Fox News special called “Rising Threats, Shrinking Military.”

...


Remember When Three of Obama's Former Secretaries of Defense Blasted Him?
 
Likes: kbear
Sep 2015
14,302
5,086
Brown Township, Ohio
#2
Nah. But it happened, though no one fainted over it as far as I know, unlike the fainting spells many on the left had when Mattis left. The left, so funny, yet so dangerous.


...

Obama’s first secretary of defense, Robert Gates, resigned without incident in 2011, but would later criticize Obama’s role as commander in chief in his memoir published a few years later. It revealed a troubled relationship between Obama and the Pentagon:

...

In 2013, Obama’s second secretary of defense, Leon Panetta, resigned after less than two years on the job over frustrations with Obama. Panetta also wrote a memoir revealing disturbing details about his time in the Obama administration, and told of Obama’s repeated decisions to ignore his advice, citing specifically “the withdrawal of all troops from Iraq in 2011, the failure to intervene in Syria’s civil war by arming rebels and the abrupt reversal of Mr. Obama’s decision to strike Syria in retaliation for using chemical weapons on civilians.”

In 2014, shortly after the midterm elections that saw Republicans take control of the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama fired Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel over, you guessed it, policy and strategy disagreements. Hagel said in an interview a year later that the Obama White House tried to “destroy” him and that they had no strategy for fixing Syria.

More disturbing than anything that has come out thus far regarding Mattis’s resignation is that Obama’s fiercest critics of his foreign policy and military strategy have been his secretaries of defense. In April 2016, all three of Obama’s former secretaries of defense at the time—Gates, Panetta, and Hagel—blasted Obama in interviews for a Fox News special called “Rising Threats, Shrinking Military.”

...


Remember When Three of Obama's Former Secretaries of Defense Blasted Him?
Obama never did this or done that. What should you expect out of a Community Organizer from South Chicago? South Chicago is presently fighting his Presidental Library in court. Obama should build his Library in Kenya.
 
Jun 2013
28,864
15,452
Ohio
#3
Pathetic attempt at whataboutism. Mattis, in his resignation letter, told Don the Con that he was screwing our allies while giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Absolutely stunning.
 
Likes: leekohler2
Dec 2015
17,428
16,443
Arizona
#4
Pathetic attempt at whataboutism. Mattis, in his resignation letter, told Don the Con that he was screwing our allies while giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Absolutely stunning.

YUP--here we go again. THE "whataboutery" defense. The philosopher Merold Westphal said that only people who know themselves to be guilty of something "can find comfort in finding others to be just as bad or worse."

It's the "two wrongs make a right" argument. It's the "he did it too" thingy. False equivalency. Double standard. It's what the guilty use when they've got nothing else.
 
Likes: Camelot
Jun 2013
28,864
15,452
Ohio
#5
YUP--here we go again. THE "whataboutery" defense. The philosopher Merold Westphal said that only people who know themselves to be guilty of something "can find comfort in finding others to be just as bad or worse."

It's the "two wrongs make a right" argument. It's the "he did it too" thingy. False equivalency. Double standard. It's what the guilty use when they've got nothing else.
It was a pathetic analogy anyhow. Obama didn’t have a Defense Secretary resign in disgust because Obama abandoned our allies and gave comfort to our enemies. These same right wing nuts who whined about Obama’s red line against Assad now cheer Don the Con turning tail and giving that same Assad a free hand. Right wingers have rendered themselves irrelevant as a result of their constant duplicity.
 
Likes: Clara007
Apr 2014
3,170
1,371
redacted
#6
Pathetic attempt at whataboutism. Mattis, in his resignation letter, told Don the Con that he was screwing our allies while giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Absolutely stunning.
Agreed it is whataboutism. Sure, Obama fucked up, but that has nothing to do with Trump fucking up. So, at best, we have two fuck-ups in a row. What’s the point of this thread again? Noting that we’ve had two fuck ups as POTUS in a row?
 
Mar 2013
10,056
10,841
Middle Tennessee
#7
And Kane's little cut and paste diatribe has one major fatal flaw. BUSH NEGOTIATED THE 2011 IRAQ TROOP WITHDRAWAL !!!! That wasn't Obama. Obama talked about it during the campaign and it proved SO POPULAR that JUST before the election Bush announced HE HAD NEGOTIATED an agreement. Obama simply honored the agreement Bush had already agreed to. But that of course has NOTHING to do with Republican's alternative facts when they try to label Obama as a coward and appeaser for honoring the agreement and removing the troops.

Of course the FACT IS, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE INVADED THE FUCKING COUNTRY !!!! During the first gulf war when asked WHY we didn't go all the way to Baghdad and take Saddam out, DICK CHENEY (at the time Sec Def) said it would take 350,000 troops and TEN YEARS to fully subdue and stabilize the country. When Bush started talking "limited war" I KNEW WE WERE FUCKED !!!! He never sent more than HALF the number of troops needed to do the job fully and properly. 15 years and TWO TRILLION DOLLARS LATER what do we have to show for our efforts ??
 
Likes: Camelot
Jul 2014
14,965
9,174
massachusetts
#9
Remember when Obama's lawyer plead guilty and implicated Obama in illegal campaign contributions in the form of payoffs to porn stars that Obama fucked right after Michelle gave birth, me neither...
 
Likes: Camelot
Jun 2012
41,958
15,180
Barsoom
#10
Nah. But it happened, though no one fainted over it as far as I know, unlike the fainting spells many on the left had when Mattis left. The left, so funny, yet so dangerous.



...


Obama’s first secretary of defense, Robert Gates, resigned without incident in 2011, but would later criticize Obama’s role as commander in chief in his memoir published a few years later. It revealed a troubled relationship between Obama and the Pentagon:


...


In 2013, Obama’s second secretary of defense, Leon Panetta, resigned after less than two years on the job over frustrations with Obama. Panetta also wrote a memoir revealing disturbing details about his time in the Obama administration, and told of Obama’s repeated decisions to ignore his advice, citing specifically “the withdrawal of all troops from Iraq in 2011, the failure to intervene in Syria’s civil war by arming rebels and the abrupt reversal of Mr. Obama’s decision to strike Syria in retaliation for using chemical weapons on civilians.”


In 2014, shortly after the midterm elections that saw Republicans take control of the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama fired Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel over, you guessed it, policy and strategy disagreements. Hagel said in an interview a year later that the Obama White House tried to “destroy” him and that they had no strategy for fixing Syria.


More disturbing than anything that has come out thus far regarding Mattis’s resignation is that Obama’s fiercest critics of his foreign policy and military strategy have been his secretaries of defense. In April 2016, all three of Obama’s former secretaries of defense at the time—Gates, Panetta, and Hagel—blasted Obama in interviews for a Fox News special called “Rising Threats, Shrinking Military.”


...



Remember When Three of Obama's Former Secretaries of Defense Blasted Him?
They did not resign. They bailed.
 

Similar Discussions