Rudy: There's Nothing Wrong with.........

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Rank Rudy strikes again.
There was a time Rudy Giuliani was viewed as a crime-fighting US attorney and later as the valiant mayor of New York in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks. But that Rudy is long gone. And all that remains is a man who will be best known for his work as a pathetic shill for Donald Trump.
We saw another example of this on Sunday when Giuliani, appearing on CNN's "State of the Union" in his capacity as Trump's personal lawyer, gave a master class in deceit as he discussed Robert Mueller's report.
First, Giuliani tried to make Americans think there's nothing wrong with a campaign for president of the United States accepting help from Russians. This came up in the discussion of the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting attended by Donald Trump Jr., then Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner in the hopes of obtaining "dirt" on Hillary Clinton from Russian nationals.

Giuliani defended the Trump campaign accepting help from Russians by stating, "Any candidate in the whole world in America would take information," causing Tapper to ask, "From a foreign source? From a hostile foreign source?" Giuliani shot back, "Who said it's even illegal?" (This is an attorney?)

A few moments later when pressed again by Tapper on a presidential candidate getting help from Russians in the 2016 campaign, Giuliani responded adamantly, "No, no, there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians! It depends on where it came from."
Giuliani then suggested the "dirt" the Russians offered to the Trump campaign would not be considered a "campaign contribution" as defined by federal law.


UH.....
First, it's election law 101 that a federal campaign cannot accept "a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value" from a foreign national.
In fact, the Mueller report explains the rationale for this law, noting that "the United States has a compelling interest in limiting the participation of foreign citizens in activities of democratic self-government, and in thereby preventing foreign influence over the U.S. political process."

But apart from the legality, Giuliani's claim that there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians" is stunning, especially given that it was described in writing to Trump Jr. as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." The response of the Trump campaign to such an offer should have been a resounding "no" followed by a call to the FBI. Instead, Trump Jr. responded by email less than 20 minutes later, "If it's what you say I love it."

Should our nation be free from foreign interference? WHAT DO THE AMERICAN VOTERS THINK? WE'LL FIND OUT IN 2020.

Rudy Giuliani is 100% wrong (Opinion) - CNN
 
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Rank Rudy strikes again.
There was a time Rudy Giuliani was viewed as a crime-fighting US attorney and later as the valiant mayor of New York in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks. But that Rudy is long gone. And all that remains is a man who will be best known for his work as a pathetic shill for Donald Trump.
We saw another example of this on Sunday when Giuliani, appearing on CNN's "State of the Union" in his capacity as Trump's personal lawyer, gave a master class in deceit as he discussed Robert Mueller's report.
First, Giuliani tried to make Americans think there's nothing wrong with a campaign for president of the United States accepting help from Russians. This came up in the discussion of the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting attended by Donald Trump Jr., then Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner in the hopes of obtaining "dirt" on Hillary Clinton from Russian nationals.

Giuliani defended the Trump campaign accepting help from Russians by stating, "Any candidate in the whole world in America would take information," causing Tapper to ask, "From a foreign source? From a hostile foreign source?" Giuliani shot back, "Who said it's even illegal?" (This is an attorney?)

A few moments later when pressed again by Tapper on a presidential candidate getting help from Russians in the 2016 campaign, Giuliani responded adamantly, "No, no, there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians! It depends on where it came from."
Giuliani then suggested the "dirt" the Russians offered to the Trump campaign would not be considered a "campaign contribution" as defined by federal law.


UH.....
First, it's election law 101 that a federal campaign cannot accept "a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value" from a foreign national.
In fact, the Mueller report explains the rationale for this law, noting that "the United States has a compelling interest in limiting the participation of foreign citizens in activities of democratic self-government, and in thereby preventing foreign influence over the U.S. political process."

But apart from the legality, Giuliani's claim that there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians" is stunning, especially given that it was described in writing to Trump Jr. as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." The response of the Trump campaign to such an offer should have been a resounding "no" followed by a call to the FBI. Instead, Trump Jr. responded by email less than 20 minutes later, "If it's what you say I love it."

Should our nation be free from foreign interference? WHAT DO THE AMERICAN VOTERS THINK? WE'LL FIND OUT IN 2020.

Rudy Giuliani is 100% wrong (Opinion) - CNN
Americans care. The Trump base? Not so much.
 
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Rank Rudy strikes again.
There was a time Rudy Giuliani was viewed as a crime-fighting US attorney and later as the valiant mayor of New York in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks. But that Rudy is long gone. And all that remains is a man who will be best known for his work as a pathetic shill for Donald Trump.
We saw another example of this on Sunday when Giuliani, appearing on CNN's "State of the Union" in his capacity as Trump's personal lawyer, gave a master class in deceit as he discussed Robert Mueller's report.
First, Giuliani tried to make Americans think there's nothing wrong with a campaign for president of the United States accepting help from Russians. This came up in the discussion of the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting attended by Donald Trump Jr., then Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner in the hopes of obtaining "dirt" on Hillary Clinton from Russian nationals.

Giuliani defended the Trump campaign accepting help from Russians by stating, "Any candidate in the whole world in America would take information," causing Tapper to ask, "From a foreign source? From a hostile foreign source?" Giuliani shot back, "Who said it's even illegal?" (This is an attorney?)

A few moments later when pressed again by Tapper on a presidential candidate getting help from Russians in the 2016 campaign, Giuliani responded adamantly, "No, no, there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians! It depends on where it came from."
Giuliani then suggested the "dirt" the Russians offered to the Trump campaign would not be considered a "campaign contribution" as defined by federal law.


UH.....
First, it's election law 101 that a federal campaign cannot accept "a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value" from a foreign national.
In fact, the Mueller report explains the rationale for this law, noting that "the United States has a compelling interest in limiting the participation of foreign citizens in activities of democratic self-government, and in thereby preventing foreign influence over the U.S. political process."

But apart from the legality, Giuliani's claim that there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians" is stunning, especially given that it was described in writing to Trump Jr. as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." The response of the Trump campaign to such an offer should have been a resounding "no" followed by a call to the FBI. Instead, Trump Jr. responded by email less than 20 minutes later, "If it's what you say I love it."

Should our nation be free from foreign interference? WHAT DO THE AMERICAN VOTERS THINK? WE'LL FIND OUT IN 2020.

Rudy Giuliani is 100% wrong (Opinion) - CNN
While I agree, there's two problems: Due Process and/or whether or not Congress has the guts do what is best for the nation.

Even the Democrats seem reluctant to pull the trigger on impeachment because they are uncertain if the Republican Senate will follow through.
 
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The problem is that impeachment is not a guilt or innocence issue.

It is simply a popularity contest.

Do not lose hope for justice.

There is a wave of truth coming of which the guilty will not survive.
 

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Ghouliani....

Another example of how the deleterious effects of supporting Trump can affect a person.
 
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Nov 2012
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Rank Rudy strikes again.
There was a time Rudy Giuliani was viewed as a crime-fighting US attorney and later as the valiant mayor of New York in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks. But that Rudy is long gone. And all that remains is a man who will be best known for his work as a pathetic shill for Donald Trump.
We saw another example of this on Sunday when Giuliani, appearing on CNN's "State of the Union" in his capacity as Trump's personal lawyer, gave a master class in deceit as he discussed Robert Mueller's report.
First, Giuliani tried to make Americans think there's nothing wrong with a campaign for president of the United States accepting help from Russians. This came up in the discussion of the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting attended by Donald Trump Jr., then Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner in the hopes of obtaining "dirt" on Hillary Clinton from Russian nationals.

Giuliani defended the Trump campaign accepting help from Russians by stating, "Any candidate in the whole world in America would take information," causing Tapper to ask, "From a foreign source? From a hostile foreign source?" Giuliani shot back, "Who said it's even illegal?" (This is an attorney?)

A few moments later when pressed again by Tapper on a presidential candidate getting help from Russians in the 2016 campaign, Giuliani responded adamantly, "No, no, there's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians! It depends on where it came from."
Giuliani then suggested the "dirt" the Russians offered to the Trump campaign would not be considered a "campaign contribution" as defined by federal law.


UH.....
First, it's election law 101 that a federal campaign cannot accept "a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value" from a foreign national.
In fact, the Mueller report explains the rationale for this law, noting that "the United States has a compelling interest in limiting the participation of foreign citizens in activities of democratic self-government, and in thereby preventing foreign influence over the U.S. political process."

But apart from the legality, Giuliani's claim that there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians" is stunning, especially given that it was described in writing to Trump Jr. as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." The response of the Trump campaign to such an offer should have been a resounding "no" followed by a call to the FBI. Instead, Trump Jr. responded by email less than 20 minutes later, "If it's what you say I love it."

Should our nation be free from foreign interference? WHAT DO THE AMERICAN VOTERS THINK? WE'LL FIND OUT IN 2020.

Rudy Giuliani is 100% wrong (Opinion) - CNN
So, explain to me why it was okay for Hillary to accept a dossier valued at 7,000,000 (That is what the democrats paid for it so the market value was 7,000,000 dollars) from the Russians?
 
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So, explain to me why it was okay for Hillary to accept a dossier valued at 7,000,000 (That is what the democrats paid for it so the market value was 7,000,000 dollars) from the Russians?
The orgins of the document can be found in here.

Trump–Russia dossier - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier

The Trump–Russia dossier, also known as the Steele dossier, is a private intelligence report .... Howard Blum said that Steele leaned on sources "whose loyalty and information he had bought and paid for over the years". Steele delivered his ...
Christopher Steele · ‎Fusion GPS · ‎The Washington Free Beacon · ‎Glenn R. Simpson
 
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The orgins of the document can be found in here.

Trump–Russia dossier - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier

The Trump–Russia dossier, also known as the Steele dossier, is a private intelligence report .... Howard Blum said that Steele leaned on sources "whose loyalty and information he had bought and paid for over the years". Steele delivered his ...
Christopher Steele · ‎Fusion GPS · ‎The Washington Free Beacon · ‎Glenn R. Simpson

Yes it was produced by a private corporation Fusion GPS, which was CONTRACTED to create this by the DNC and Hillary Campaign, at a cost of 6-7 million dollars. Steele was hired by Fusion GPS in JUNE of 2016...

FYI Remember the Russian Lawyer Trumps son met with. SHE TOO was hired by Fusion GPS to contact the Trump Campaign, she was not working for the Russians she was hired indirectly by the Hillary campaign.
 
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So, explain to me why it was okay for Hillary to accept a dossier valued at 7,000,000 (That is what the democrats paid for it so the market value was 7,000,000 dollars) from the Russians?
Heh heh! Obviously, Clinton is smarter and smoother than the Trump Crime Family. Trump went directly to the Russians and ended up getting nothing. Clinton went THROUGH a contractor and got SOMETHING.
The law says: There's a difference.
 
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Yes it was produced by a private corporation Fusion GPS, which was CONTRACTED to create this by the DNC and Hillary Campaign, at a cost of 6-7 million dollars. Steele was hired by Fusion GPS in JUNE of 2016...

FYI Remember the Russian Lawyer Trumps son met with. SHE TOO was hired by Fusion GPS to contact the Trump Campaign, she was not working for the Russians she was hired indirectly by the Hillary campaign.
What is your point. It is clear that hilllary broke no law in the matter. You have zero proof that that simpson hired her. I do wonder what the relationship was though. There is no telling what simpson was up to and it looks like he was playin both sides.