SeaStead. . . The Only Feasible Possibility For An Actual Libertarian Society

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It has been tried many times, but a libertarian society is extremely fragile - it can only exist in an isolated environment.

Once the progressives worm their way into government, the whole thing collapses. Taxes, redistribution of wealth, Intervention, Nation-Building, Wars, and misery. How can we work past these things?

There's only one way to secure a proper libertarian society:

A SeaStead - - - A colony of privately owned Home modules parked in international waters.

The idea sounds crazy to statists, dictators and autocrats, but it CAN be done. All it takes is the capital, and the will.

I will outline a plan to achieve this goal.
 
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Sounds good to me. And international traders can come and do trading. I can imagine not only a small independent traders but huge companies like Unilever, P&G, Nestle, Kraft, etc, sending ships to Seastead to do duty-free business.

Residents, who start turning progressive can be unhitched from the community and set adrift, right? Tt is up to them if they have their sea-home motorized, no?

Seastead is not a welfare state and should not accept any refugees or asylum.
 
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A Seastead is an ideal way to establish a libertarian community. It can be located 12 nautical miles (or more) away from any country.
Floating Home Modules would be constructed on land, sold to a buyer, and then towed to any number of Seasteads in international waters. Naturally the freest Seastead will attract the most libertarians, and will make the most money.
Home Modules would come in 3 standard sized units - -

• a Single which is 50'X 50',

• a Double which is 50' X 100',

• a Quad which is 100' X 100'.

A single Home Module would cost around $550k (slightly more expensive than the average land-based home). Double Home Modules would cost ~ $1.4 Mil, and quads would cost ~ $2.5 Mil. The Home Module owner pays for towing his/her module to a Seastead platform (around $1800), and there is a $18k connect/disconnect fee. This fee covers connecting and disconnecting each Home Module to the seastead "grid".

Business Modules come in the same 3 sizes as Home modules, however the monthly Business Grid Fees are *usually* double that of the Home Grid Fees. The Seastead Owner(or Corp.) must not increase monthly Grid Fees unless specified in the contract.

The Seastead grid itself is either corporate or privately owned. The Seastead will usually have a limited governing body consisting of 5 or 7 volunteer Home Module owners. They will serve as the Court/Sheriff/Judge/Jury. There is no Jail or holding cell on When a Law or Right is violated, the Council of Elders convenes and hears the case. The Council will assess the torts on the plaintiff, and usually will assess a fine. However, in serious physical assault cases where a person is maimed or killed, banishment from the seastead may be ordered. Banishment means the Home Module is disconnected and set adrift. So it's vitally important to respect others' rights to life, liberty, and property while on the seastead.

There are NEVER any taxes on the Seastead, so there is no Medicare or Food Stamps or any State-run social services. There are no "gun control" Laws, so fully auto guns are OK! . . . I plan to have a .50 cal BMG! :D
 
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What company or individual controls your proposed "Grid" and what is done about waste (garbage and poop) as well as hurricanes?
 
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What company or individual controls your proposed "Grid" and what is done about waste (garbage and poop) as well as hurricanes?
Good questions.

The Company or individuals who own the grid platform will: operate it, maintain it, make expansions to (when necessary), provide potable water, electricity, and waste treatment, and control it. These services are what the monthly Grid Fee covers. Grid Fees pay for the upkeep of the Grid, plus a little extra for a profit. There must be some profit margin, so investors get dividends!

There will be a Covenants and Conditions Agreement that each Module owner must sign before hooking up to the Grid. This contract spells out plainly what is required of each module owner. This contract also spells out plainly the limitations of the Seastead Owner(s). (The C&CA is analogous to the US Bill of Rights.)

Hurricanes ARE a problem. Seasteading off the coast of Florida is a super-bad idea!! :injured: owie.

Seasteading is much better suited for the calm waters off of California and Baja California (Mexico)
 
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It has been tried many times, but a libertarian society is extremely fragile - it can only exist in an isolated environment.

Once the progressives worm their way into government, the whole thing collapses. Taxes, redistribution of wealth, Intervention, Nation-Building, Wars, and misery. How can we work past these things?

There's only one way to secure a proper libertarian society:

A SeaStead - - - A colony of privately owned Home modules parked in international waters.

The idea sounds crazy to statists, dictators and autocrats, but it CAN be done. All it takes is the capital, and the will.

I will outline a plan to achieve this goal.
Please, be the first to start it. BTW, you may not hold jobs in other societies, and you may not have use of our armies, emergency workers or anything else that we pay for. You will be your own.
 
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Good questions.

The Company or individuals who own the grid platform will: operate it, maintain it, make expansions to (when necessary), provide potable water, electricity, and waste treatment, and control it. These services are what the monthly Grid Fee covers. Grid Fees pay for the upkeep of the Grid, plus a little extra for a profit. There must be some profit margin, so investors get dividends!

There will be a Covenants and Conditions Agreement that each Module owner must sign before hooking up to the Grid. This contract spells out plainly what is required of each module owner. This contract also spells out plainly the limitations of the Seastead Owner(s). (The C&CA is analogous to the US Bill of Rights.)

Hurricanes ARE a problem. Seasteading off the coast of Florida is a super-bad idea!! :injured: owie.

Seasteading is much better suited for the calm waters off of California and Baja California (Mexico)
Where do you plan to get the water?
 
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So you have a floating trailer park, offshore in international waters, when someone gets sick, do you just toss them overboard, or is there a hospital unit? Who pays for the hospital unit, is it in the hookup fee, and aren't hookup fees the exact same thing as taxes?
 
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Good questions.

The Company or individuals who own the grid platform will: operate it, maintain it, make expansions to (when necessary), provide potable water, electricity, and waste treatment, and control it. These services are what the monthly Grid Fee covers. Grid Fees pay for the upkeep of the Grid, plus a little extra for a profit. There must be some profit margin, so investors get dividends!

There will be a Covenants and Conditions Agreement that each Module owner must sign before hooking up to the Grid. This contract spells out plainly what is required of each module owner. This contract also spells out plainly the limitations of the Seastead Owner(s). (The C&CA is analogous to the US Bill of Rights.)

Hurricanes ARE a problem. Seasteading off the coast of Florida is a super-bad idea!! :injured: owie.

Seasteading is much better suited for the calm waters off of California and Baja California (Mexico)
I see, so a Libertarian HOA city/subdivision with a capitalist foundation and private ownership....How is this Libertarian again?