Seattle Isn’t Afraid of Immigrants, Mr. Trump

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Yes but those who don't want them should not be forced to subsidize those who do.
I agree but at the state level.

I just do not see it ever working that way on a personal level but that should be the goal.

California has a very large economy and should be able to make choices for themselves as long as they opt out of federal programs. Let them have their medicare for all and choose how they want to educate their kids and who they want to give free handouts too.

Let them pay a their share for the military at the federal level leave them alone.
 
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Thousands? They are not afraid...so.....millions

I usually do not agree with potus.

I strongly agree with him on this issue and believe it is the right thing to do to put the incoming immigrants in places that want them and allow the places that do not want them to be free from pressure to force them upon their areas.

That is the beauty of the original idea of the usa. States free to decide for themselves on issues like this.

Tag them let let the responsibility rest on the shoulders of states who accept them. Do not spend federal funds on them either.
While I agree, it must only be legal immigrants. The law should either be upheld or it should be changed. We, the People shouldn't arbitrarily just turn a blind eye to certain lawbreaking since it encourages others to break other laws.

The main problem is illegal immigration. A wall works in urban areas, but is just an expensive monument to stupidity in well over half of the US southern border. The real solution is to eliminate the "draw", the reason people come to the US either illegally or overstay their visas which is money. They come for jobs here because the jobs in their own country suck. There are also political reasons which gets into asylum seekers, but mostly it's just to make a better living.
 
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While I agree, it must only be legal immigrants. The law should either be upheld or it should be changed. We, the People shouldn't arbitrarily just turn a blind eye to certain lawbreaking since it encourages others to break other laws.

The main problem is illegal immigration. A wall works in urban areas, but is just an expensive monument to stupidity in well over half of the US southern border. The real solution is to eliminate the "draw", the reason people come to the US either illegally or overstay their visas which is money. They come for jobs here because the jobs in their own country suck. There are also political reasons which gets into asylum seekers, but mostly it's just to make a better living.
yep mo visas yo

a bigger migrant worker program and a more stringent list of reasons to grant asylum.

I believe the persecution word should be changed and fit more toward extreme fear of loss of life.

Also perhaps a way for people in other countries to have more of a voice on the world stage. Perhaps a worldwide reporting system that when things reach a certain point in a country people come together to find solutions or at least address problems more.

When is the last time the world said to the usa that the war on drugs is not working or that we would be better served if we bought more coffee from the south rather than taiwan? Then we would run the risk of having a global cabal running things though.
 
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I agree but at the state level.

I just do not see it ever working that way on a personal level but that should be the goal.

California has a very large economy and should be able to make choices for themselves as long as they opt out of federal programs. Let them have their medicare for all and choose how they want to educate their kids and who they want to give free handouts too.

Let them pay a their share for the military at the federal level leave them alone.

Yes, that's what i ment.
 
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You get what you tolerate.
The reality of life. A lesson many Democrats/liberals never fully comprehend is the rule of unintended consequences. Their emotions rule them, not logic.

The opposite used to be true about Republicans, but ever since Jerry Falwell's Christian Coalition was given a seat at the big table, the GOP slowly stopped being the GOP and just became the RNC, the polar opposite of the DNC in ideology, but the identical twin brother in terms of spending money they don't have and seeking to force ideology on American citizens.
 
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I love this open letter to the fat orange turd from the mayor of Seattle, following said fat orange turd's attempts to ship immigrants from the border to small and mid-sized cities which he perceives as being political foes. She certainly speaks up for all compassionate and truly patriotic Americans!

Seattle Isn’t Afraid of Immigrants, Mr. Trump
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By Jenny A. Durkan
April 12 at 7:05 PM

Jenny A. Durkan, a Democrat, is mayor of Seattle.

Here’s a message to President Trump: Seattle is not afraid of immigrants and refugees. In fact, we have always welcomed people who have faced tremendous hardships around the world. Immigrants and refugees are part of Seattle’s heritage, and they will continue to make us the city of the future.

What does scare us? A president and federal government that would seek to weaponize a law enforcement agency to punish perceived political enemies. A would-be despot who thinks the rule of law does not apply to him.

On Friday, Trump took to Twitter to confirm a Post report that the White House wants to place detained immigrants in so-called sanctuary cities represented by Democrats.

In doing so, he trotted out his favorite playbook: He is demonizing immigrants and refugees to incite fear and to distract the American public from his own failures. Despite his party having control of the whole federal government for two years, Trump has utterly failed to fix our immigration system, to provide real opportunity for middle America or to improve the lives of the Americans in the places that supported him.

It’s clear he hates the fact that the very cities he scorns are engines of innovation, opportunity and economic power. But we will not be deterred. The president’s threats won’t intimidate me as a mayor of a city with an open door, as a former federal prosecutor or as the granddaughter of a teenager who fled a war-torn, starving and impoverished country only to be welcomed in America.

This president believes that immigrants and refugees burden our country and burden cities like ours. But he could not be more wrong.

In Seattle, we know that our immigrant and refugee communities make our city a stronger, more vibrant place. Our immigrant neighbors make up more than 18 percent of our population, and 21 percent of our population speaks a language other than English at home. They create businesses and jobs. They create art and culture. They help teach our kids, serve in law enforcement and the military, and lead our places of faith.

Our immigrant and refugee neighbors have helped Seattle become the fastest-growing big city in the country and become home to some of the world’s most iconic companies. And we know that today’s immigrants are tomorrow’s U.S. citizens who should have the chance to contribute to the economic, cultural and civic life of Seattle — and our nation.

Contrary to what this president thinks, in Seattle, we have strong American values of inclusiveness and opportunity. Instead of threatening immigrant families and the cities that welcome them, this president should spend a little bit more time trying to learn from us.

In Seattle, we have started to provide tuition-free college for our public high school graduates, regardless of a young person’s immigration status. We’re expanding internship and apprenticeship opportunities to connect all our young people with the jobs and opportunities of the future. We’re working to help tens of thousands of legal permanent residents become U.S. citizens as part of the New Citizen Campaign and our other citizenship programs. Our Ready to Work program connects people with case managers and English language education to help our immigrant and refugee neighbors gain the skills necessary to enter our booming jobs market.

We will not allow a president who continues to threaten our shared values of inclusion, opportunity and diversity to jeopardize the health and safety of our communities. That’s why, shortly after taking office, I issued a mayoral directive strengthening Seattle’s “Welcoming City” laws that make clear that our city will not ask about — or improperly divulge information about — a resident’s immigration status. And our police officers will continue to focus on local law enforcement — not serve as federal immigration enforcement officials. This is what the president means when he uses the term “sanctuary city.”

Our city has already taken on this president and won. When Trump and the Justice Department threatened to withhold federal funding over our policies, we beat him in court. When he announced his cruel plan to separate children and families, Democratic mayors stood up to say we are better than this as a country.

So if this president wants to send immigrants and refugees to Seattle and other welcoming cities, let me be clear: We will do what we have always done, and we will be stronger for it. And it will only strengthen our commitment to fighting for the dignity of every person. We will not allow any administration to use the power of America to destroy the promise of America.

Seattle Isn't Afraid of Immigrants, Mr. Trump
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The reality of life. A lesson many Democrats/liberals never fully comprehend is the rule of unintended consequences. Their emotions rule them, not logic.

The opposite used to be true about Republicans, but ever since Jerry Falwell's Christian Coalition was given a seat at the big table, the GOP slowly stopped being the GOP and just became the RNC, the polar opposite of the DNC in ideology, but the identical twin brother in terms of spending money they don't have and seeking to force ideology on American citizens.
I agree completely.

Say, why don’t you and I form a two-person oligarchy and run the country? I think everyone would be better off.
 
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While I agree, it must only be legal immigrants. The law should either be upheld or it should be changed. We, the People shouldn't arbitrarily just turn a blind eye to certain lawbreaking since it encourages others to break other laws.

The main problem is illegal immigration. A wall works in urban areas, but is just an expensive monument to stupidity in well over half of the US southern border. The real solution is to eliminate the "draw", the reason people come to the US either illegally or overstay their visas which is money. They come for jobs here because the jobs in their own country suck. There are also political reasons which gets into asylum seekers, but mostly it's just to make a better living.
Correction, Bob. "THEY" (those seeking asylum) do not come for jobs. They do not come for a BETTER life. They come to the U.S. and ask for asylum so they can actually HAVE A LIFE--so their children can HAVE A LIFE. They walk to the border from places like Honduras. They walk for three months. They leave their country because their lives and the lives of their children have been threatened.
I think you were the one who posted how liberals don't use logic--they resort to emotion?? Really? If your child was threatened---if your child was in danger of being raped or kidnapped or killed---and you wanted that child to LIVE??
Call me crazy, but isn't it logical to MOVE YOUR ASS out of your current situation? To gamble on getting your child to the U.S. border and asking for asylum??
How far would you GO or WALK---what steps (if any) would you take to safeguard your children?
 
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I agree completely.

Say, why don’t you and I form a two-person oligarchy and run the country? I think everyone would be better off.
Sorry, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, so I'm content to let "We, the People" work things out.
 

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