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Well, no reason to read any further into your posts, even if you did try to back up statements you pull out of your ass! And you don't seem to understand what the term "egalitarian" means either!

Books I value that have been written about life in the former Soviet and satellite East Bloc states, like "Red Hangover" by Kristen Ghodsee (which I've mentioned a number of times in the past) add weight behind a theory of a number of historians and political scientists, that it was the Soviet Bloc's modest egalitarianism that brought down communism and all talk of socialism, NOT because of what we were told: popular disenchantment of common workers seeing TV images of Germans and other westerners wearing fancy clothes and driving fancy cars- NO, it was the elite, professional communist managers who were jealous of their western counterparts when they started meeting and learning about them and how they lived, during Gorbachev's "Glasnost" period. They discovered that their relatively paltry perks given to the Soviet management class (clunky Russian, Czech or Yugoslavian-made cars, comparatively small single-detached homes and summer cottages along Black Sea resorts) were a fraction of what the western millionaire executives had back then.....let alone now! And they wanted to live like the millionaires and billionaires in London and New York.

The Soviet leadership class decided quietly among themselves during that time of Glasnost that "Perestroika" or restructuring...mostly re-localizing and privatizing state socialist enterprises wasn't going to be good enough! And they were set on crashing the system and privatizing everything in a grand neoliberal experiment, that caused the untimely deaths of milliions of mostly older(but some younger...especially women with young children who were forced into prostitution to earn money for rent) Russians, East Germans and other Soviets who lost pensions and all other income support, including loss of low cost apartments with privatized real estate. In the early 2000's, more than half of Russia's population had collapsed below international guidelines determining poverty, and were suffering malnutrition and dying at younger and younger ages, while a few....mostly former Soviet Communist Party officials became the new class of billionaires in a transition that was welcomed by the West.*

As Stephen Cohen, the Soviet and Russian scholar at Columbia University who used to be consulted frequently by US leaders describes modern Russia has described the situtation, it shouldn't be a shock to any Americans or outsiders that Vladimir Putin became quickly regarded as a hero in Russia, because of the disaster he had to take control of, as well as purging the western -oriented plutocrats and demanding Russian business leaders be loyal to their nation.

For some stupid reason, we were told during the Cold War era that the conflict with the Soviets and China was because of communism, and once communism was replaced with capitalism, everything would be fine....."The End of History!" Naturally, capitalists see communism and even watered down versions of socialism to be threats to their grand plans. But, the real threat of global nuclear war takes off when the former communist countries become capitalist, but as in the cases of Russia and China, the capitalist classes over there see themselves as deserving a better share of global business and revenues, and refuse to be relegated to the sidelines by American and Euro plutocrats.

*This is the backstory behind a few scandals and fake stories....like American expat criminal businessman- Bill Browder (who renounced his US citizenship to escape justice) and became one of a few foreigners who thought they were going to go to Russia and profit from the mess left by Russia's transition to capitalism. Like so many others, the game is buy up cheap assets and become filthy rich. Browder concocted a fake story that his accountant- Sergei Magnitsky - was beaten to death by Russian prison guards, as a cover for his attempt to defraud the Russian Treasury by creating fake shell corporations. All a game to create an international "Magnitsky Act" and portray Russian capitalism as somehow more fraudulent than what runs out of Wall Street and other financial hubs in the world.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/29/london-times-runs-fake-browder-opinion-piece/

A few people I have talked to and one I know personally, who lived through this wonderful period of transition to capitalism, consider it a hellish experience they were lucky to escape from......and see the same dark future over here as the capitalist class grinds us working people down for more and more profits! Capitalism promotes inequality, jealousy, consumer-materialism and antisocial thinking and behavior, as the capitalist society becomes more and more unequal and poverty increases.
Capitalism has been warmly embraced by Putin and his oligarchs.

After a dip in the poverty rate in the early 2000s, poverty is on the rise in Russia.

Putin and his oligarchs performed no miracles in the early to mid-2000s. This happened to the price of oil:
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Gloss it all you want, the last 100 years of Russian history document Russians screwing Russians, massive corruption, and strong belief in the principle: Screw the other guy before the other guy screws you.
 
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Capitalism has been warmly embraced by Putin and his oligarchs.

After a dip in the poverty rate in the early 2000s, poverty is on the rise in Russia.

Putin and his oligarchs performed no miracles in the early to mid-2000s. This happened to the price of oil:
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Gloss it all you want, the last 100 years of Russian history document Russians screwing Russians, massive corruption, and strong belief in the principle: Screw the other guy before the other guy screws you.
So, you prove this contempt for Russians by providing 20 years of income data?.....if the graph can be verified.
 
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So why did the mighty USSR make a deal with the devil?
Because the "angels" (Western democracies) did not want to conclude an anti-Hitler alliance with the USSR, engaged in the pacification of Hitler and pushing him towards the east. In the summer of 1939, England and France actually thwarted the conclusion of an agreement with the USSR. Hitler made statements from which it was clear that Poland would be the next victim. Which, incidentally, was nothing better than Hitler in relation to the USSR, and it was Poland that refused to let the Soviet army into its territory during the Czechoslovak crisis of 1938 and later, when danger threatened Poland itself. Instead, Poland made every effort to enlist the support of Germany for a joint war with the USSR. It was not by chance that Churchill called Poland "the hyena of Europe." If Hitler attacks Poland (which, I repeat, was an enemy of the USSR in the pre-war period), then what will Hitler do when he reaches the borders with the USSR? And most importantly, how England and France will behave. An example of how they could behave was given by Truman: https://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/467598943_57688f0ce5_o.jpg
Therefore, when Hitler proposed concluding a Non-Aggression Pact (which Germany had with most of Europe, including France, England and Poland), Stalin agreed to this Pact as a means of postponing the inevitable war. Since the alliance with the Devil has already been concluded by all the "democratic" countries of Europe, allowing Hitler to be strengthened. They thought they were so smart, but failed both as diplomats and as military.
All demagogy about the “union” of communism with Nazism collapses about two simple facts:
a) After a year and a half, Nazism begins a total, and not a “strange” war against communism.
b) After another 4 years, communism destroys Nazism.
 
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In the United States, a Jew was arrested who secretly painted swastikas on his house and complained to the police that Trump supporters were doing this.
Great illustration of modern politics in the USA. The top leadership of the Democratic Party does the same thing.
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Mike Pompeo:
"The Communist Party of China is not the future that I want. This is not the future that other democracies want. And this is not the future that the people of China want."
This is wonderful, although nothing new. An exceptional nation always knows better what other nations want.
 
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"The russians are coming!" (c)
In Pittsburgh, near the FBI office, a car was parked with an inscription that the Russians were implanting radio chips in the ears of honest American citizens in order to control them later. The FBI detained the owner of the car and said that he had mental problems.
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imaginethat

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In the United States, a Jew was arrested who secretly painted swastikas on his house and complained to the police that Trump supporters were doing this.
Great illustration of modern politics in the USA. The top leadership of the Democratic Party does the same thing.
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Mike Pompeo:
"The Communist Party of China is not the future that I want. This is not the future that other democracies want. And this is not the future that the people of China want."
This is wonderful, although nothing new. An exceptional nation always knows better what other nations want.
So now you're outright lying?

The swastika story is more then 2-1/2 years old, thus, it hardly qualifies as "news." The man was not a Jew. He didn't blame it on Trump supporters.
 

imaginethat

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"The russians are coming!" (c)
In Pittsburgh, near the FBI office, a car was parked with an inscription that the Russians were implanting radio chips in the ears of honest American citizens in order to control them later. The FBI detained the owner of the car and said that he had mental problems.
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HA HA! I bet you Russians thought you'd get away with this. Silly Russians....
 
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"An Indian minister has proposed combating drought in one of the driest states in the country with ritual sacrifices to the rain god."

21 century...
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Joe Biden said that the positions of Russia and Assad in Syria have strengthened, since Trump has no foreign policy.
I do not know. Trump acted strictly according to the canons of democracy: whom he could bomb, he bomb, whom he could not - impose sanctions. Could not impose sanction - imposed custom fee.
Apparently this is not the case...
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That's just interesting.
NATO called on Russia to return Crimea under Ukrainian control. With the territory it is clear what they had in mind. And how they plan to transfer residents of the Crimea under control of Ukraine? Tie everyone up? Move to concentration camps? Or take everyone out of the peninsula?
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Russian Foreign Ministry:
"Americans smuggle oil worth more than $ 30 million per month from Syria and are not going to leave these areas for the foreseeable future."
Who would! Show me someone who is about to voluntarily leave the place where a million $ falls into his pocket every day.
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"Russia is working hard to impose various versions of its S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems around the world," said US Assistant Secretary of State Clark Cooper.
“Through targeted sales of systems such as the S-400, Russia seeks to take advantage of the security needs of its partners to create barriers to our ability to supply them with the most advanced defense equipment,” Cooper said.
This is amazing! Negative selection of politicians in action.
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In Congress, the United States adopted a resolution against the inclusion of Russia in the G7 "as long as it does not respect the territorial integrity of its neighbors and adhere to the standards of democratic societies."
Apparently Russia should seize someone else's oil, to match the "standards of democratic societies."
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200 units of heavy military equipment from Britain arrive in Estonia, as well as about 800 soldiers and officers. They will participate in the exercises and replace the British-based NATO contingent based in that country.
Interestingly, is there a city called Dunkirk in Estonia?
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Deutsche Welle surprised:
"Afghan armed forces, supported by the US CIA, have committed non-judicial killings, violent abductions, indiscriminate airstrikes and attacks on medical facilities. This follows from the Human Rights Watch (HRW) report."
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"Komsomolskaya Pravda": Moscow, St. Petersburg and several other regions of Russia will take part in an experiment to limit cash payments.
3-5 years and the country will be driven into plastic. Said something against the authorities, they blocked the card and you can’t even buy a loaf of bread.
#Capitalism
 
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On this day in 1970 in Chile, the inauguration ceremony of President Salvador Allende was held. He became the first Marxist to win the election on the American continent. Less than three years later he was overthrown and killed in a Pinochet fashist military coup.
 
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