The attack on Christianity continues!

Feb 2014
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Yes, I find Christians equally frightening and they are better armed. They have a very bloody history and I think that plays into the mid-east problem today. Religion is good for war and war is good religion.
 
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Nah Christianity isn't under attack at all, it won't be long, and that will start happening here, because the oh so tolerant aren't tolerant at all
For sure Christianity is under attack and so are you in this thread. It is not as simple as "those people are bad". Christians need to take things a step further and question why they face opposition. Muslims and Christians are promoting the same religious belief of being a God's favorite people and the only ones who know God's truth and will, and it is their holy duty to do the will of a God who eliminates people he does not like, and who has commanded his followers to do the same. When people believe they hold God's truth and others do not and that they are supposed to do something about that, trouble happens. There is a problem with the belief. It goes with not valuing secular logic and science and therefore leads to only one way of ending a conflict about beliefs- killing.
 
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What do you mean by that? I am not sure I am not fascist. It is ludicrous to deny government is not directly involved with economics. However, having all life organized around the accumulation of wealth and focusing education on that purpose, can lead to some very serious problems.
 
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What do you mean by that? I am not sure I am not fascist. It is ludicrous to deny government is not directly involved with economics. However, having all life organized around the accumulation of wealth and focusing education on that purpose, can lead to some very serious problems.
Fascism is more than a political ideology or an economic system. It is fundamentally a worldview. It is almost like a religion. I can link you reading material that should help you grasp this.
 
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Fascism is more than a political ideology or an economic system. It is fundamentally a worldview. It is almost like a religion. I can link you reading material that should help you grasp this.
Please do. I have a lot on my plate, but maybe I can add it to my plate if it is not too much. I am listening to college lectures about history and pushing myself to understand more. Exactly where does your perspective on fascism (Italy, Germany, the US) come from and what period of time?
 
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It is not the Bibles belief that we elimiate those who disagree with us.
That depends on how you interpret the bible. Please, keep in mind I did not talk of religion until Bush Jr. invaded Iraq and the Christian Right re-elected him. I think Bush and Cheney should be charged with war crimes and the Christian Right thought he was doing the will of God. That was the last straw. I think Christianity has become a problem to democracy, and I could live that sort of, but not with the slaughter of innocent of people and putting women and children in a terrible situation for the rest of their lives, for economic reasons befitting the oil industry and the American dollar. I am sorry, but religious notions that lead to so much trouble, have to end.

Those who stand with Trump on the treatment of Muslims have to be thinking like the Christians who say, "Well God would not let them into heaven". If you want to defend Christianity you have to take on a long list of wrongs, and stop denying the wrongs of Christain history.

Please watch Micheal Moore's show "Where to Invade Next" Not only is our US culture more inhumane than other countries, and we have a president demanding nations prepare for war, but in Germany the names of Jews who were forced out of their homes are on plaques in front of the homes they once had and schools teach what happened. We live in denial of the wrongs of slavery and the inhumanity we have done. We want to ignore what we have done to native Americans, as Jews want to ignore Palestinians rights to the land, and Zionist Christians support the injustices of Israel. I don't know how you defend all the wrongs, but it sure is not by knowing no more about Christianity than your experience of it in the last ten years.
 
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That depends on how you interpret the bible. Please, keep in mind I did not talk of religion until Bush Jr. invaded Iraq and the Christian Right re-elected him. I think Bush and Cheney should be charged with war crimes and the Christian Right thought he was doing the will of God. That was the last straw. I think Christianity has become a problem to democracy, and I could live that sort of, but not with the slaughter of innocent of people and putting women and children in a terrible situation for the rest of their lives, for economic reasons befitting the oil industry and the American dollar. I am sorry, but religious notions that lead to so much trouble, have to end.

Those who stand with Trump on the treatment of Muslims have to be thinking like the Christians who say, "Well God would not let them into heaven". If you want to defend Christianity you have to take on a long list of wrongs, and stop denying the wrongs of Christain history.

Please watch Micheal Moore's show "Where to Invade Next" Not only is our US culture more inhumane than other countries, and we have a president demanding nations prepare for war, but in Germany the names of Jews who were forced out of their homes are on plaques in front of the homes they once had and schools teach what happened. We live in denial of the wrongs of slavery and the inhumanity we have done. We want to ignore what we have done to native Americans, as Jews want to ignore Palestinians rights to the land, and Zionist Christians support the injustices of Israel. I don't know how you defend all the wrongs, but it sure is not by knowing no more about Christianity than your experience of it in the last ten years.
That was an amazing post.
 
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That depends on how you interpret the bible. Please, keep in mind I did not talk of religion until Bush Jr. invaded Iraq and the Christian Right re-elected him. I think Bush and Cheney should be charged with war crimes and the Christian Right thought he was doing the will of God. That was the last straw. I think Christianity has become a problem to democracy, and I could live that sort of, but not with the slaughter of innocent of people and putting women and children in a terrible situation for the rest of their lives, for economic reasons befitting the oil industry and the American dollar. I am sorry, but religious notions that lead to so much trouble, have to end.

Those who stand with Trump on the treatment of Muslims have to be thinking like the Christians who say, "Well God would not let them into heaven". If you want to defend Christianity you have to take on a long list of wrongs, and stop denying the wrongs of Christain history.

Please watch Micheal Moore's show "Where to Invade Next" Not only is our US culture more inhumane than other countries, and we have a president demanding nations prepare for war, but in Germany the names of Jews who were forced out of their homes are on plaques in front of the homes they once had and schools teach what happened. We live in denial of the wrongs of slavery and the inhumanity we have done. We want to ignore what we have done to native Americans, as Jews want to ignore Palestinians rights to the land, and Zionist Christians support the injustices of Israel. I don't know how you defend all the wrongs, but it sure is not by knowing no more about Christianity than your experience of it in the last ten years.
Adding on another example...
How Americans treat our history and how we treated the Indians. The Thanksgiving myth that is typically told in grade school involves peaceful co-existence.
For example, the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving video white washes the history ...
In the year 1621, the pilgrims held their first Thanksgiving feast. They invited the great Indian chief Massasoit... ...who brought 90 of his brave Indians and a great abundance of food. Governor William Bradford and Captain Miles Standish... ...were honored guests. Elder William Brewster, who was a minister, said a prayer that went something like this: "We thank God for our homes and our food and our safety in a new land. We thank God for the opportunity to create a new world for freedom and justice. " Amen.
And then "Americans" repeatedly stole their land, set up peace treaties, broke them and stole more land...
It astounds me that when the subject is brought up, there are so many people who refuse to recognize that what our migrant ancestors did was very, very evil.
 
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In regard to the Canaanites, God commanded, “In the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them — the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites — as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God” (Deuteronomy 20:16-18). The Israelites failed in this mission as well, and exactly what God said would happen occurred (Judges 2:1-3; 1 Kings 11:5; 14:24; 2 Kings 16:3-4). God did not order the extermination of these people to be cruel, but to prevent even greater evil from occurring in the future.

Probably the most difficult part of these commands from God is that God ordered the death of children and infants as well. Why would God order the death of innocent children? (1) Children are not innocent (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). (2) These children would have likely grown up as adherents to the evil religions and practices of their parents. (3) These children would naturally have grown up resentful of the Israelites and later sought to avenge the “unjust” treatment of their parents.

Again, this answer does not completely deal with all the issues. Our focus should be on trusting God even when we do not understand His ways. We also must remember that God looks at things from an eternal perspective and that His ways are higher than our ways. God is just, righteous, holy, loving, merciful, and gracious. How His attributes work together can be a mystery to us – but that does not mean that He is not who the Bible proclaims Him to be.
Reconcile the above with this comment of yours: "It is not the Bibles belief that we elimiate those who disagree with us."
 
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