The tipping custom is bs and should be ignored.

Mar 2020
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Land of Freedom
It is not only that I find it ridiculous that I should feel obligated to leave an extra 20% on top of the bill just because all the guy or gal did was place a plat on my table, I find it insulting. It argued that waiters and waitresses live off customer tips? So what? No one forced then to get a job that lives of people's charity.

I am perfectly happy to go to a restaurant that states clearly at the door and the menu that a service charge will be added to the bill though. Noting wrong with that.

Tipping is a custom that always guarantees bad service:

1. Discrimination - The waiter will cherry-pick who he thinks or knows is rich or generous and grab them.

2. Bad service - The waiter will spend more time at the table that he thinks will tip more and dash over there as soon as he sees the drink need refilling or a napkin gets dropped while not caring much about the "lesser" tables

3. Dishonesty - If you go to a restaurant and ask the waiter what is good on the menu, instead of telling you what he thinks is good he will promote the more expensive dishes since he knows that he will get a higher percentage tip because of the final price on the bill


Having a service charge is fine since it is honest and upfront. Tipping is hidden, coerced and indirect blackmail.

The best is no tipping custom and customers should be charged whatever the restaurant owner wants. Let it be up to the free-market.them
 
Aug 2019
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Albuquerque, NM
I agree, companies should pay their workers full salary, instead of paying them peanuts and expecting them to work on tips. Price it into your menu if you have to. They don't tip in Europe because they pay their workers well.
 
Sep 2019
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Louisville, Ky
I was in Japan last year where tipping isn't socially acceptable. They pay their servers living wages rather than $2.65 an hour.

Until that changes here in the states, I'll continue tipping.
I actually enjoy being able to show someone in real time when they are doing a good (or great) job, and the opposite is also entertaining. I once has a server so bad that my wife and I decided to let her know.....She got a quarter and a note saying "Cheer up because you suck."
 
Dec 2014
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Memphis, Tn.
It is not only that I find it ridiculous that I should feel obligated to leave an extra 20% on top of the bill just because all the guy or gal did was place a plat on my table, I find it insulting. It argued that waiters and waitresses live off customer tips? So what? No one forced then to get a job that lives of people's charity.

I am perfectly happy to go to a restaurant that states clearly at the door and the menu that a service charge will be added to the bill though. Noting wrong with that.

Tipping is a custom that always guarantees bad service:

1. Discrimination - The waiter will cherry-pick who he thinks or knows is rich or generous and grab them.

2. Bad service - The waiter will spend more time at the table that he thinks will tip more and dash over there as soon as he sees the drink need refilling or a napkin gets dropped while not caring much about the "lesser" tables

3. Dishonesty - If you go to a restaurant and ask the waiter what is good on the menu, instead of telling you what he thinks is good he will promote the more expensive dishes since he knows that he will get a higher percentage tip because of the final price on the bill


Having a service charge is fine since it is honest and upfront. Tipping is hidden, coerced and indirect blackmail.

The best is no tipping custom and customers should be charged whatever the restaurant owner wants. Let it be up to the free-market.them
1. Wait staff are assigned what tables they will serve by management.

Fucking duuuuh, restaurant owners and their wait staff want their customers to spend as much money as possible? Gee, no shit?

Man, but you are a cheap-skate...
 
Mar 2020
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Land of Freedom
I was in Japan last year where tipping isn't socially acceptable. They pay their servers living wages rather than $2.65 an hour.

Until that changes here in the states, I'll continue tipping.
The minimum wage Japan is 874 yen /hour and only 3rd world immigrants work for that. The Japanese have long ago rejected the minimum wage for themselves. This might change if they get more socialist, however, there is a strong right-wing in Japan like their current leading political party that is trying to abolish the minimum wage and return 3rd worlders home. They do not have Jus soli. Seems like the right is rising fast in Germany and Scandinavian countries too.
 
Sep 2015
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I agree, companies should pay their workers full salary, instead of paying them peanuts and expecting them to work on tips. Price it into your menu if you have to. They don't tip in Europe because they pay their workers well.
i was just gonna mention it wasnt acceptable there, because they are paid a living wage. this fucking moron in the op has no idea what its like for people to try and live off servers wages and tips. he is just disgusting and proves it with each insulting thread he starts....

:rolleyes: :vomit:
 
Aug 2019
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Albuquerque, NM
I actually enjoy being able to show someone in real time when they are doing a good (or great) job, and the opposite is also entertaining. I once has a server so bad that my wife and I decided to let her know.....She got a quarter and a note saying "Cheer up because you suck."
I always way over tip. They don't make a lot of money. I also think the best thing to happen to servers tips is splitting of the bill to each individual. My share may be only $15, but I always tip more than just the standard 20% on those split checks. If it was all paid together, they probably would only get 20%. They probably make more by splitting the checks up

Even if the service sucked I still tip