This is Putin’s world now

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As the world's leaders laugh at Trump behind his back, as Trump isolates the US even from its longtime allies, as Trump makes Bibi's dreams come true, as Trump guts US environmental laws, as he mocks the Constitution and the rule of law while surrounding himself with ass-kissers who defend his every lie, a full-time job, and while he meets secretly with Putin and Lavrov, the world has a new sheriff armed with weapons superior to ours.

It's perfectly transparent that a second term for Trump is part of Putin's plan, and that he will do everything he can do to ensure that outcome.

Oh, and the entire Russian government just resigned.

Where are all the right-wing patriots who so severely criticized Obama?

This is Putin’s world now
Here is what Vladimir Putin’s 2020 has looked like so far.​
The Russian leader went to Damascus, Syria, to meet with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad a week ago and then flew to Istanbul the next day for the inauguration of a strategic pipeline that brings Russian natural gas to Turkey and Europe underneath the Black Sea, bypassing Ukraine. Standing next to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Istanbul, Putin called for restraint in Iran-U.S. tensions and for a ceasefire in Libya. Over the weekend, he received German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Moscow and got on the phone to call the leaders of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, countries that support opposing sides in the war in Libya, to make them an offer they could not refuse. By Monday, the Russian leader was receiving the warring factions in Libya in Moscow to broker a cease-fire.
It’s a frenzied and broad agenda for any leader. And it also tells us something about the new world order that is emerging.​
While President Trump spends his time tweeting insults and threatening to start Middle Eastern wars, Russia is filling the vacuum in international diplomacy. In the case of Libya, ending a bloody conflict at the doorstep of Europe in an oil-rich country is a major deal. It could bring Erdogan and Putin even closer and force Europeans to start thinking in pragmatic terms about working with Russia on energy and security. As Europe starts thinking of a post-American world, Russia is gaining the prestige it never had.​

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/14/this-is-putins-world-now/
 
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Russia doesn't have the economy or the population to compete with the US in a serious way. They have the respect that nukes and a relatively efficient military both provide, but that can only take you so far.
 
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As the world's leaders laugh at Trump behind his back, as Trump isolates the US even from its longtime allies, as Trump makes Bibi's dreams come true, as Trump guts US environmental laws, as he mocks the Constitution and the rule of law while surrounding himself with ass-kissers who defend his every lie, a full-time job, and while he meets secretly with Putin and Lavrov, the world has a new sheriff armed with weapons superior to ours.

It's perfectly transparent that a second term for Trump is part of Putin's plan, and that he will do everything he can do to ensure that outcome.

Oh, and the entire Russian government just resigned.

Where are all the right-wing patriots who so severely criticized Obama?

This is Putin’s world now
Here is what Vladimir Putin’s 2020 has looked like so far.​
The Russian leader went to Damascus, Syria, to meet with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad a week ago and then flew to Istanbul the next day for the inauguration of a strategic pipeline that brings Russian natural gas to Turkey and Europe underneath the Black Sea, bypassing Ukraine. Standing next to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Istanbul, Putin called for restraint in Iran-U.S. tensions and for a ceasefire in Libya. Over the weekend, he received German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Moscow and got on the phone to call the leaders of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, countries that support opposing sides in the war in Libya, to make them an offer they could not refuse. By Monday, the Russian leader was receiving the warring factions in Libya in Moscow to broker a cease-fire.
It’s a frenzied and broad agenda for any leader. And it also tells us something about the new world order that is emerging.​
While President Trump spends his time tweeting insults and threatening to start Middle Eastern wars, Russia is filling the vacuum in international diplomacy. In the case of Libya, ending a bloody conflict at the doorstep of Europe in an oil-rich country is a major deal. It could bring Erdogan and Putin even closer and force Europeans to start thinking in pragmatic terms about working with Russia on energy and security. As Europe starts thinking of a post-American world, Russia is gaining the prestige it never had.​

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/14/this-is-putins-world-now/
Putin's winning like a mofo,

I think at the very least he wanted to create division and chaos in the US, but he got a bonus with the subservient lackey that is donald trump running the US. The guy will do anything for him.
 
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Putin's winning like a mofo,

I think at the very least he wanted to create division and chaos in the US, but he got a bonus with the subservient lackey that is donald trump running the US. The guy will do anything for him.


Putin is not winning. The left's propaganda has truly convinced the gullible that the russian bogeyman is back.
 
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It may *MAY* have been unintentional, but Trump's assassination of Soleimani was a GIFT to Putin.
From WaPo:
Putin draws much of his legitimacy at home from his apparent success at restoring Russian power on the world stage. Americans and Europeans have largely failed to understand the psychological impact the collapse of the Soviet Union and the loss of stature and basic identity had on the Russian public and on Putin himself. While he may have restored basic stability, his failure to deliver the economic goods is very gradually eroding his standing. But his effectiveness at boosting Russia’s international prominence counts for a lot to a people who felt humiliated when the Soviet Union collapsed and America emerged as the world’s dominant power.

If there was to be a negotiation between Trump and the Ayatollah, what better intermediary than Putin? Trump would likely leap at the chance to forge a new nuclear deal, and he has only one criterion: He has to be able to claim that he has done better than Obama. Putin would no doubt play on that, telling Trump that if he wants more (such as concessions on the agreement’s expiration date, the so-called “sunset provisions”), he will have to give more to the Iranians in the way of economic relief and investments.

So the Bro-mance continues and we all lived happily ever after---especially Uncle Vladdy.

 
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It may *MAY* have been unintentional, but Trump's assassination of Soleimani was a GIFT to Putin.
From WaPo:
Putin draws much of his legitimacy at home from his apparent success at restoring Russian power on the world stage. Americans and Europeans have largely failed to understand the psychological impact the collapse of the Soviet Union and the loss of stature and basic identity had on the Russian public and on Putin himself. While he may have restored basic stability, his failure to deliver the economic goods is very gradually eroding his standing. But his effectiveness at boosting Russia’s international prominence counts for a lot to a people who felt humiliated when the Soviet Union collapsed and America emerged as the world’s dominant power.

If there was to be a negotiation between Trump and the Ayatollah, what better intermediary than Putin? Trump would likely leap at the chance to forge a new nuclear deal, and he has only one criterion: He has to be able to claim that he has done better than Obama. Putin would no doubt play on that, telling Trump that if he wants more (such as concessions on the agreement’s expiration date, the so-called “sunset provisions”), he will have to give more to the Iranians in the way of economic relief and investments.

So the Bro-mance continues and we all lived happily ever after---especially Uncle Vladdy.




You folks are DELUSIONAL with russiaphobia....... hahahahahahahhaaaa....


WE took out a guy who killed 603 americans, Sorry, not sorry for your loss.
 
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Then please discount the points raised in the OP.


Your op was all over the map, I thought it was a free for all....


A lot of trumps environmental laws and removing of said laws was to roll back federal overreach...

other than that your op was a rather boilerplate rambling partisan nonsense. not sure what you want to debate here.
 

imaginethat

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You folks are DELUSIONAL with russiaphobia....... hahahahahahahhaaaa....


WE took out a guy who killed 603 americans, Sorry, not sorry for your loss.
Let's see your list.

Even should you provide one, i see you stand with Trump who prefers dick-slapping to diplomacy.
 
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