Trump Kicks Off Week Advocating "Bible Literacy" Classes in Schools

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Ohhhhhh PPPPPAAAAAAAALLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZEEEEEEEE explain how forcing children to read and study the bible is FREEDOM OF RELIGION ??
Interesting question.

We do force children to study all sorts of different things whether they need it or not. Not just religion.
 
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Interesting question.

We do force children to study all sorts of different things whether they need it or not. Not just religion.
Math, science, history, civics, languages, reading, writing, even sex education, are all skills they will need to navigate life. Without at least the fundamentals they will have an exceedingly hard time functioning in society. Religion, beyond it's causes and effects on history is not needed. I do not need to be able to quote either the bible or the koran to understand what happened in the middle east a thousand years ago.
 

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Math, science, history, civics, languages, reading, writing, even sex education, are all skills they will need to navigate life. Without at least the fundamentals they will have an exceedingly hard time functioning in society. Religion, beyond it's causes and effects on history is not needed. I do not need to be able to quote either the bible or the koran to understand what happened in the middle east a thousand years ago.
So you took it upon yourself to decide importance with no science behind your own claim. How ironic.

Hey, if you were unfortunate to find yourself in a terrorist moment. Knowing how to quote the Koran may be your way of remaining alive while your civics didn't do squat.
 
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So you took it upon yourself to decide importance with no science behind your own claim. How ironic.

Hey, if you were unfortunate to find yourself in a terrorist moment. Knowing how to quote the Koran may be your way of remaining alive while your civics didn't do squat.

And you have science that support the notion that being forced to study the bible some how makes the world a safer place ?? Since those that promote teaching the bible are almost always decidedly against teaching any other religion, the bible class won't do you damned bit of good in that terrorist situation. Unless of course the terrorist in question are white supremacists. Then quoting the koran definitely won't help but the bible just might.

None of this however explains how forcing children to study the bible can be construed as religious freedom ??
 
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Sure, but who made Russia into what it is today in the first place? Supposedly...as we were told, ending communism and 'freeing' markets in the east would usher in a new global order of peace and prosperity. So, it's the CIA, State Dept. and political lackies who have the most to answer for by forcing Yeltsin in...keeping him in place after a fraudulent re-election, wherein Yeltsin committed the crimes of ordering the Army to take the parliament building by force and kill more than 100 legislators and aides who were barricaded inside.

So, first they wanted to spread capitalist fascism throughout the communist world, and some McResistance types are shocked today that billionaires in Moscow don't want to take orders from billionaires based out of New York and London!
The problem is- Russia and the USSR were never communist or even socialist to begin with. Gorbachev was the closest that country ever came to being a decent place to live, and the people squandered it, in favor of yet another dictator. Sort of like how this country made great strides under Obama and Clinton, just to elect another asshole like Trump.
 
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So you took it upon yourself to decide importance with no science behind your own claim. How ironic.

Hey, if you were unfortunate to find yourself in a terrorist moment. Knowing how to quote the Koran may be your way of remaining alive while your civics didn't do squat.
Are you serious with this shit? So you're saying that the things he mentioned are not important to live in modern society? We don't live in Saudi Arabia or Iraq. What the hell are you even talking about?

Tell you what, if it ever gets to the point that I have to quote the Koran or any other BS religion's "holy" text to survive, then I'd rather be dead.
 
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And you have science that support the notion that being forced to study the bible some how makes the world a safer place ?? Since those that promote teaching the bible are almost always decidedly against teaching any other religion, the bible class won't do you damned bit of good in that terrorist situation. Unless of course the terrorist in question are white supremacists. Then quoting the koran definitely won't help but the bible just might.

None of this however explains how forcing children to study the bible can be construed as religious freedom ??
I don't have proof, but was you that made the claim that no one would be able to use knowledge of the Bible, so it is on you to prove that. I have taken no position of this Bible study, other than to question your claim that there is never to be any value from this type of education for the recipients. You have a magical ball that tells you the future of all those to be involved? Until you prove your point, then it was nothing other than an unsubstantiated emotional outburst on your part. Did someone not suggest that if Bible is taught, so must Koran, etc, etc?

That you even had to reply to that idiotic post is amazing.
Perhaps you might want to consider actually engaging in exchange rather than your routine veiled Insult Only Post posted as a Third Party Pile-on, both which by the way were things we have discussed trying to do away with in Feedback regarding making DTT a more civil and inviting place.

Yes, I did see your reply to mine, but it was a rant and a poorly thought out one at that because you imagined that I had a position other than to pose something as food for thought. Sometimes that is known as being a devil's advocate, but seemingly, you have limited experience in thoughtful discourse to understand what that means.
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I don't have proof, but was you that made the claim that no one would be able to use knowledge of the Bible, so it is on you to prove that. I have taken no position of this Bible study, other than to question your claim that there is never to be any value. Until you prove your point, then it was nothing other than an unsubstantiated emotional outburst on your part. Did someone not suggest that if Bible is taught, so must Koran, etc, etc?


Perhaps you might want to consider actually engaging in exchange rather than your routine veiled Insult Only Post posted as a Third Party Pile-on, both which by the way were things we have discussed trying to do away with in Feedback regarding making DTT a more civil and inviting place.

Yes, I did see your reply to mine, but it was a rant and a poorly thought out one at that because you imagined that I had a position other than to pose something as food for thought. Sometimes that is known as being a devil's advocate, but seemingly, you have limited experience in thoughtful discourse to understand what that means.
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I have no desire to worry about what a religious fanatic thinks about me. Clearly, there is nothing I can do about that. If they want to kill me, well then, I guess that's what they'll do. I'd rather that than live in hiding. You are free to quote the Koran or anything else, if you want to live in such a society. Have fun.

I will never quote any religious text simply to save my life. It's literally not worth it. We all live and die. If death was so terrible, no one would do it. But everyone does, don't they?
 
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