Trump slams ‘ridiculous Endless Wars’ as he defends dramatic shift in Syria policy

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Point of clarification. Didn't Bush 41 abandon the Kurds (no intervention during gas attacks against them) during Gulf War?
Yes. He did. We have now abandoned them on three different occasions, not including WW1. Secular Muslims not trying to enforce Sharia law, and copies our form of democracy. These are the Muslims in the Middle East we have abandoned.

Looks like oil availability over rides ideological concerns huh?

There’s a special place in hell for that industry. Which only makes sense, being they have to drill half way to hell to get it.
 
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To make them evidence for your assertion you need explain how the statements or actions you claim to have occurred actually caused more "hate and division" by Obama than Trump has caused. You might want to consider how "hate and division" within a country might be measured. Otherwise your statements just become background noise by an uninformed Trump supporter.
No I don't.
 
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Yes. He did. We have now abandoned them on three different occasions, not including WW1. Secular Muslims not trying to enforce Sharia law, and copies our form of democracy. These are the Muslims in the Middle East we have abandoned.

Looks like oil availability over rides ideological concerns huh?

There’s a special place in hell for that industry. Which only makes sense, being they have to drill half way to hell to get it.
Guess what, only Muslims can do anything about that. Their faith has abandoned them.
 
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Oh, I LOVE to talk about me. I'm a first generation American of working poor irish parents, I grew up on the lower east side of nyc in the 70's and 80's as well as newark nj, I was both in the military and worked as a private security contractor, And during that time I got a degree in psychology, then my masters at NYU. I also trained to become a IT security specialist with the goal of getting into IT forensics, and was quite the natural at it. Such a natural at it, I started my own company. I have a 100 employees today and am Fit, Rich, and Trim. ;) My company runs itself these days so I mostly work with my own charity for severely disabled veterans, as well as city harvest, fisher house, as well as being on the board of a youth club you are very aware of if I mentioned it. Some say I'm blessed, but "I built this". ;)




ironically, you accuse me of scoring low on emotional intelligence while you advocate sending other people's sons and daughters off to a war of choice. You dun fucked up my friend... between me and you in this particular discussion, seems you are scoring lower than I would on "emotional intelligence"


Your turn, I want to hear all about you!
All I need say is I grew up in the 50s, 60,s and 70s, and volunteered for military service during the Vietnam War. I went to college on the GI Bill and majored in finance and became a successful financial planner and consultant. Then I retired a few years early because I could afford to. And "Fit and Trim" you say? I'm 72 now and I jog a mile 4 days a week when I'm not traveling to vacation in The South of France, Scotland, New Zealand, or elsewhere because I need to spend some of my wealth while I can. I usually don't boast about my success but I figured if I didn't tell you about it you would feel a bit too superior, and nobody like a self-important poster.

But regarding the subject at hand, it doesn't begin to address your callous indifference about national security and our international standing that Trump is destroying.
 
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If Trump is pathological at least it is an excuse compared to Obama who was a calculating liar. Obama's lies did more damage than anyone wants to admit. He set the ME on fire and turned Lybia into a terrorist haven during the Arab Spring. Obama supported the MB (Morsi) and gave them weapons and aid.
Leftist Ventriloquists Stole Willie Tyler's Dummy


Rather than calling FUBARack a "calculating liar," when he was so glib and unthinking, I see his performance as someone who was incessantly lied to by his ultraliberal professors and in his Java madrassah.
 
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If the Kurds Want to Become Cottage Cheese, That's Their Problem

Erdogan was fed up with letting the Kurds come over from their sanctuary in Syria, but not having done anything about it because of the American troops at the Kurdish base. Finally, he told Trump enough is enough; he's going in after the Kurdish terrorists and will not be deterred by any collateral damage to American advisors. Trump figures we were there only to target ISIS, not to let the Kurds abuse our protection by continuing their ancient ethnic feuds. He doesn't want to be played for a chump, like the Taliban were by Al Qaida in a similar drama.
 
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oh its the "don't point out my hypocrisy game!"


I've already stated I supported obama's withdrawal, Just wish he'd drone isis more than random people in the mid east. Same with trump, and now the kurds.

See that's called being objective.


Don't be so tribal.




So how many americans are you willing to send to risk thier lives for the kurds? You have any of age kids or grandkids? will you encourage them to join the fight or is that other american's problem?
Why didn't Trump solve this problem before resorting to abandonment? Surely better foreign policy could have found some solution. It appears that Trump put zero serious effort into the Kurd situation.
 
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To make them evidence for your assertion you need explain how the statements or actions you claim to have occurred actually caused more "hate and division" by Obama than Trump has caused. You might want to consider how "hate and division" within a country might be measured. Otherwise your statements just become background noise by an uninformed Trump supporter.
No I don't.
Of course you think you don't.
I was wrong to think that you had any interest in presenting a thoughtful and persuasive statement that might demonstrate the slightest bit of understanding of an issue.
 
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Of course you think you don't.
I was wrong to think that you had any interest in presenting a thoughtful and persuasive statement that might demonstrate the slightest bit of understanding of an issue.
Your hot air is annoying. I gave you Obama quotes and actions. Those are facts.