Trump to amend Constitution with executive order

Jun 2012
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Barsoom
#92
The statute:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:​
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;​

Trump, using orginal intent, can define (a).
 
Mar 2013
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Middle Tennessee
#93
The statute:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:​
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;​

Trump, using orginal intent, can define (a).
So using the "well regulated militia" clause the president can change who can and cannot keep guns ??
 
Jun 2012
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Barsoom
#94
So using the "well regulated militia" clause the president can change who can and cannot keep guns ??
What is Trump changing about intent of "under the jurisdiction thereof?"

The Second Amendment is off limits to any branch of the federal government. Read the preamble, the debates, and the intent of the first ten amendments.
 
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Jul 2014
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massachusetts
#95
The statute:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:​
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;​

Trump, using orginal intent, can define (a).
But the original intent of congress in 1952 was that only the children of those with diplomatic immunity were excluded from birthright citizenship.
And the statute is the law, unless it conflicts with the constitution.
If you read the statute, you'll find that it never revisits "persons born in the United States".
How can you recast the meaning of something passed in 1952 and understood to have a precise meaning , by claiming the meaning was different 100 years before.
And even then, your argument is kind of sketchy......
 
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Jul 2014
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massachusetts
#97
The statute:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:​
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;​

Trump, using orginal intent, can define (a).
Wouldn't the original intent of the statute be the understanding of the words by the congress in 1952?
 
Jul 2014
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massachusetts
#98
That is not the law nor the intent.
So in drafting the 14th Amendment, the goal was to ban the children of illegal aliens from citizenship, even though no such class of people existed?
There were citizens and non-citizens, people born in the US were citizens, whether their parents were citizens or not.
And this has gone on for 150 years, and now, you and your cult members have discovered what no one else saw for 150 years......
I don't think so.
 
Jun 2012
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Barsoom
I am pretty certain that most educated people knew of this:

That any alien, being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof....​

I am also pretty certain that most educated people know that when the man who wrote the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment said that the clause did not apply to aliens, he did not mean people from Mars. And that when the entire debate of the 39th Congress and the citizenship clause revolved around only freed slaves, they meant only freed slaves.