Trump tweets that climate change is not real

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Jack Holmes is the Politics Editor at Esquire.com, where he writes daily and edits the Politics Blog with Charles P. Pierce. There's also a dash of sports and some feature writing. His work has appeared in New York magazine and The Daily Beast.

The following are excerpts from Jack Holmes' January 29, 2019 article headlined "Look at This Embarrassing FXXXXXg Moron" with the subheading "The president tweets, for the umpteenth time, that climate change is not real because it's cold outside."

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Among the many joys of the Trump Era is the knowledge that if it is cold somewhere, odds are the President of the United States will crow that it's proof climate change is not real. Yes, the world's most powerful man has, over and over again, treated the fact that it's cold outside as evidence that the idea the planet is getting warmer is not the result of decades of work by hundreds of scientists across dozens of countries, but is in fact a hoax cooked up by the Chinese....

A dangerous cold front is sweeping the midwest this week, so it was time for another Official Message from the President uniquely calibrated to once again make the whole world dumber.


This man is allergic to books. He is so deeply incurious about the world you wonder how he's learned to navigate outside Mar-a-Lago or his golden apartment in the sky. He is, quite simply, the Dumbest Man Available, and we made him president. This is another piece of red meat for the reactionary Base, whose only goal is to maintain power with which to pXXs off liberals. His aides will pass it off as a "joke," despite the fact that this attitude is reflected in his administration's policy. It is particularly fXXXXXg infuriating because we learned just this month that the oceans are warming faster than we thought, Antarctica and Greenland's ice sheets are melting faster than we thought, and in general, the climate crisis is likely even worse than climate scientists—who are actually fairly conservative in their public messaging—were previously willing to say outright.

We can explain how climate is not the same as weather. We can run through how 2018 was hotter than any year on record, in terms of global temperatures, except for three: 2015, 2016, and 2017. We could mention how 2018 was the hottest year on record for the planet's oceans, and the previous hottest ever was 2017. The top five hottest years for ocean temperature have occurred since 2014. But what's the point? Like the phony Republican concern about the national debt Trump has opted to completely ignore, he honestly does not care because he'll be dead when the sXXt hits the fan. It's just reactionary bXXXsXXt....

Someday, we'll just have to tell our kids we didn't do a dXXn thing—and, in fact, sent a guy named Wells Griffith to an international climate conference to advocate for burning more coal—because we elected The Big Dumb President, and that's just the way it goes. (End excerpts)

Source: Trump Tweets That Midwest Cold Front Shows Climate Change and Global Warming Aren't Real
 
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The contention of Trump, and other climate deniers, that an international conspiracy extending across dozens of countries, disciplines, hundreds of institutions and thousands of individuals exists is ridiculous. Anyone who actually uncovered such a scam would win all of the Nobel prizes in science at once.

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In particular, the connection between rising concentrations of atmospheric greenhouse gases and the increased warming of the global climate system is more compelling than ever. -- American Physical Society (Statement 15.3 paragraph 2)
 
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OK, I'll bite. What is your answer to the so called "man made" climate change? How would you stop it, if you could stop it?

I have an answer but I would love to hear yours first.
 
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OK, I'll bite. What is your answer to the so called "man made" climate change? How would you stop it, if you could stop it?

I have an answer but I would love to hear yours first.
Huh? No credible climateologist states that global climate change if caused EXCLUSIVELY by man's activities.
You people are getting good at making up shit, claiming that is what others believe and THEN talking as if it were actually true.
The controversy lies in what degree of impact man's activities have on global climate change and what can effectively be done to significantly reduce that impact.
 
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Huh? No credible climateologist states that global climate change if caused EXCLUSIVELY by man's activities.
You people are getting good at making up shit, claiming that is what others believe and THEN talking as if it were actually true.
The controversy lies in what degree of impact man's activities have on global climate change and what can effectively be done to significantly reduce that impact.
That's absolutely true: the human addition to a warming overall climate isn't the only factor that can affect the Earth's climate. But in the history of Earth's climate, a human-driven rise in atmospheric CO2 has never before been a factor. None of the factors that previously have contributed to a warmer climate - a more active sun, natural increases in greenhouse gases such as from volcanic sources, variations in the earth's orbit and the orientation of its axis - have played a role in initiating or driving the current warming cycle, just the opposite. The climate according to natural forces should be cooling.


However, now, thanks to human activities being the initiating factor, certain natural forces, or feedbacks, now are coming into play. Warmer oceans mean more water vapor, itself a powerful GHG. Thawing tundra adds both CO2 and the powerful GHG methane to the earth's atmosphere. The loss of polar ice increases the absorption of heat energy by the polar oceans. The ubiquitous forest fires across the globe release huge amounts of CO2. of methane by Warming ocean floor deposits of methane are releasing that potent GHG. All these factors that are caused by warming are now contributing to it: Positive feedback loops.

But for Trump, allegations of human-caused climate change are part of one big liberal conspiracy. Trump champions proud ignorance and his ignorant supporters can't get enough of it. Damn those liberals.
 
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Just read in interesting article. In the early 1600s there was sort of a mini ice age. Very cold winters. Scientist has been at a loss to explain it since the previous several hundred years had been pretty stable. They now think the arrival of white man in the Americas may be the cause. Especially in south America where diseases and violence resulted in the deaths of up to 50 million indigenous people. With entire civilizations wiped out in a matter of years, millions of acres of what had been farm land were reclaimed by the forests. More trees more oxygen in the air. Cooler weather.

Interesting proposition.

As far as climate change, I take a Pascals wager point of view. If we act like humans are causing or at least enhancing the trend even if we're not, whats the worst that will happen ? We leave the planet a little cleaner and better off for our descendants ?? If we don't act, and we are causing it, then we doom those same descendants.
 
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Just read in interesting article. In the early 1600s there was sort of a mini ice age. Very cold winters. Scientist has been at a loss to explain it since the previous several hundred years had been pretty stable. They now think the arrival of white man in the Americas may be the cause. Especially in south America where diseases and violence resulted in the deaths of up to 50 million indigenous people. With entire civilizations wiped out in a matter of years, millions of acres of what had been farm land were reclaimed by the forests. More trees more oxygen in the air. Cooler weather.

Interesting proposition.

As far as climate change, I take a Pascals wager point of view. If we act like humans are causing or at least enhancing the trend even if we're not, whats the worst that will happen ? We leave the planet a little cleaner and better off for our descendants ?? If we don't act, and we are causing it, then we doom those same descendants.
I started a thread on this with links to the actual paper. It got no replies.

The real cause of the little ice age
 
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