Trump Won't Be Impeached but..........

Dec 2013
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Beware of watermelons
#11
So...this is what you guys are placing your bets on.

Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives for high crimes and misdemeanors, specifically his involvement in directing his former attorney and fixer Michael Cohen to commit a felony by making illegal in-kind contributions to the Trump campaign and concealing them.


Lol. What happened to muh russia?

Hey, remember that one time that one president was fined $375k for $1.8m in campaign finance violations?

But paying of an empowered woman...way worse...right?

You guys are loosing it.
 
Sep 2015
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#12
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry Clara but call me a skeptic.

1. The headline alone says Mueller "May" submit a report in Feb.
2. We've heard over and over again the probe is ending soon and it's never come to fruition. It's also very possible the "sources" in these stories could be individuals on the Trump side trying to push a narrative the report should be ending, ginning up frustrations when the probe doesn't end.

Not saying it won't end in Feb, I'm just not convinced by the evidence that's been presented.
Being called a skeptic is better than being called a cynic.
 
Apr 2014
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Heart of America
#14
The major issue for political pundits regarding 2019 is whether Donald Trump’s presidency will survive the year leading into the 2020 elections. Their focus is on the likelihood as to whether Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives and then removed by the U.S. Senate.

Trump will not be removed from office by the Constitutional impeachment and removal process.

Instead, the self-professed supreme dealmaker will use his presidency as a bargaining chip with federal and state authorities in 2019, agreeing to leave office in exchange for the relevant authorities not pursuing criminal charges against him, his children or the Trump Organization.

Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives for high crimes and misdemeanors, specifically his involvement in directing his former attorney and fixer Michael Cohen to commit a felony by making illegal in-kind contributions to the Trump campaign and concealing them. The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York has already obtained Cohen’s guilty plea to this conduct. Democrats now control the House of Representatives, and the votes will be there for the needed impeachment majority.
In order for the Senate to remove Trump from office, however, there must be a vote of at least two thirds of the senators affirming the House-passed Articles of Impeachment. That would require a defection against Trump of at least 20 Republican senators.

That is highly unlikely, regardless of how compelling the impeachment case may be. All but five of the 53 GOP senators represent solid Republican Red states. Their incumbency will not be threatened by their vote against removal of the president. Each such senator runs a serious risk, however, of a pro-Trump primary election challenge if he or she supports the removal of Trump from office.

The legal danger to Trump is developing more in the office of the attorney general of New York State, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and in the Office of the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. In response to a lawsuit from the attorney general of New York State, Donald Trump agreed to shut down the Trump Foundation. The lawsuit alleged “a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation –- including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more."

The lawsuit implicates all three Trump children as well, seeking to bar them, as well as their father, from serving on the boards of other New York nonprofits.
t is now clear that the investigations of Donald Trump are now focused on possible criminal conduct of the Trump children, as well. Donald Trump Jr. has reportedly told confidants that he expects to be indicted by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III for actions taken by him during the campaign as well.

There's more here: Ex-Bush and Whitman adviser: Trump won’t be impeached, but he will leave the presidency in 2019

Mueller says he will wrap things up in February so we don't have long to wait, but the author of this opinion piece and I agree. Trump will not run in 2020. If Trump quits (to save his children and that is out of character for him--to save anyone but himself), Prez Pence will pardon him and Pence will run in 2020. What do you think?
Looks about right to me. I’m already on record saying I think 2019 will be Trump’s last year but that he’ll resign, not be impeached.
 
Apr 2014
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#15
I still think, and this is the opinion of several Congress watchers, that not only is an impeachment not likely to pass in the Senate, but in fact the attempt would further energize his base and end up being counterproductive.

The political situation has become far too much R vs D, period.
A posse of Senate Republicans will persuade Trump to resign rather than face impeachment. A lot depends upon what Mueller’s final report states. If it provides enough ammunition for impeachment the Republicans will act. Many of them will face elections in 2020 too plus their concern that public disgust of Trump will result in a landslide victory for a Democrat President in 2020. Better to have Trump resign in 2019, let Pence become President and lead the Republicans to some victories in Congress leading up to the 2020 election.
 

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