U.N. Official Makes Candid Admission

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Well, certainly there has been nothing in your posts to suggest a sane balanced mind, you do tend to take the lunatic fringe position with some regularity...

Not accepting the U.N. / big government meme of man made global warming / climate change is hardly "lunatic". Recall that predictions were made by that crowd that snow would become a rare event. :lol:

But I'm sure that you must be a big hit on the line waiting for your meds, what with your expertise in diagnosing people online. Or is it that you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night?


 
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Not accepting the U.N. / big government meme of man made global warming / climate change is hardly "lunatic". Recall that predictions were made by that crowd that snow would become a rare event. :lol:

But I'm sure that you must be a big hit on the line waiting for your meds, what with your expertise in diagnosing people online. Or is it that you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night?


We will have no snow because of global warming

now

We are having massive snow fall DUE to global warming

There will be a rash of major hurricaines due to Global warming

now

The lack of hurricaine activity is due to global warming

There will be Droughts due to global warming

now

There is massive flooding due to global warming


and the last but not least

Global Cooling is caused by Global warming.

Global Warming May Trigger Winter Cooling | Science/AAAS | News


If your pig farts Blue Goat's milk it is due to global warming
 
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Rampant alarmism at WUWT (again) about UN climate talks in Geneva

Rampant alarmism at WUWT (again) about UN climate talks in Geneva

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WUWT is veering once again into rampant alarmism. Eric Worrall (he's just a run-of-the-mill denier from Australia, one of Anthony Watts' useful idiots) has written one of his very short "guest essays" (archived here), most of which is a copy and paste of a segment from the Sydney Morning Herald. It's a contrast to the tedious verbose "guest essays" by some other contributors I suppose.

The SMH article was about how, for the Geneva talks, the draft UN agreement to combat climate change has now swollen to 100 pages, from the 38 page document drafted at Lima.

Eric sets the ball rolling with alarmism, writing:

Given the fact that countries are free to write their own terms, including joke effort’s like China’s agreement to do nothing until the 2030s, in return for America agreeing to commit economic suicide, the greatest contribution to CO2 reduction Paris is likely to produce, will be the sequestration in some dusty filing cabinet, of all the carbon copies, of what promises to be the longest climate agreement ever written.

Eric just made up the part about China - out of thin air. China is reportedly bringing forward its plan for carbon trading. As for America agreeing to "commit economic suicide" - I don't see that happening any time soon.

(Is this really the best that people who want the globe to warm faster have to offer? Seems pathetically weak to me. Thankfully, many world leaders are taking the UN meetings very seriously.)


Framing climate policies for public support

Now all this rampant alarmism gives me a good reason for alerting readers to a new paper by Mark Hurlstone and his colleagues. Mark and one of his co-authors, Stephan Lewandowsky, have written about the paper at Shaping Tomorrow's World. The research was exploring how best to frame messages to build support for climate policies.

They found that when messages about the effect of climate policies on future national income are framed as "foregone gain" rather than "loss", people are more inclined to support them. The "foregone gain" is that incomes will rise, but not by as much as they would without emission cuts.

They also found that Australians weren't persuaded to change their thinking by the fact that Australia is one of the highest per capita emitters of CO2. However they were more likely to be persuaded if they thought that most other people were persuaded. People like to adhere to social norms.


Deniers look for other people who share their warped "norms"

That's why blogs like WUWT survive, in my view. Deniers are comforted by the fact that there are other deniers somewhere in the world. WUWT-ers don't come across many deniers in real life - so they herd together in the dimmest darkest corners of cyberspace, seeking solace.

Deniers run away from the hundreds, probably thousands of websites and blogs about climate science and climate policy, preferring to settle in on pseudo-science and conspiracy blogs. Deniers play make believe with each other. They pretend they are the sane, rational ones, despite all evidence to the contrary. Read on to see how utterly irrational deniers can be.

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HotWhopper: Rampant alarmism at WUWT (again) about UN climate talks in Geneva
 
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Oh look, another Socialist tree hugger like the U.N. lady in post #1;

Shell CEO Says Industry Needs To Be Less Aloof In Climate Change Conversation

Royal Dutch Shell CEO Ben van Beurden believes it is time for his industry to take a more active role in the conversation about climate change and become "less aloof." Putting a price on carbon is a "crucial" part of lowering emissions and addressing climate change, he said at an industry conference in London on Thursday evening.

"Yes, climate change is real. And yes, renewables are an indispensable part of the future energy mix," van Beurden said, according to prepared remarks. "But no, provoking a sudden death of fossil fuels isn’t a plausible plan."

"The issue is how to balance one moral obligation, energy access for all, against the other: fighting climate change," he continued. "We still need fossil fuels for a lower carbon, higher energy future."

Van Beurden stressed that global energy demand indicates that fossil fuels won't disappear overnight. He said the focus should be on reducing emissions by switching from coal to natural gas for electricity generation, deploying carbon capture and storage technology, and creating a "well-executed" carbon pricing system.

Achieving these goals is still a distant prospect, he said. "The debate -- driven by [non-governmental organizations] -- still revolves around emission targets, whereas the policies needed for meeting those targets are often overlooked."

He also acknowledged the oil industry's credibility issue, and said it must take a critical look at itself: "You cannot talk credibly about lowering emissions globally if, for example, you are slow to acknowledge climate change; if you undermine calls for an effective carbon price; and if you always descend into the ‘jobs versus environment’ argument in the public debate."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/12/shell-ceo-climate-change_n_6671800.html
 
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Oh look, another Socialist tree hugger like the U.N. lady in post #1;



Shell CEO Says Industry Needs To Be Less Aloof In Climate Change Conversation
It's interesting to me that Exxon-Mobil are funding Goddard and his ilk while Shell has been an active part in the development of alternative energies. They are a major sponsor of the annual solar car race, often held in Australia. In Canada they fund two major university research/pilot projects for cellulosic ethanol and cellulosic biodiesel among a lot of other research.
 
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It's interesting to me that Exxon-Mobil are funding Goddard and his ilk while Shell has been an active part in the development of alternative energies. They are a major sponsor of the annual solar car race, often held in Australia. In Canada they fund two major university research/pilot projects for cellulosic ethanol and cellulosic biodiesel among a lot of other research.

How much money is Goddard getting from Exxon-Mobil? You have some proof? Or more making it up as you go along? Perhaps as you are in Canada, and it is easier to be sued, and lose such a lawsuit, you may want to retract unless you have proof.

And Exxon-Mobil spends far, far more promoting "green" thanit may give to any who have the temerity to point out the fraud in the temperature data, the constant "homogenizing" that data.

Oh! I am so impressed by the solar-car race. Sheesh.......


 
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This explains why, in spite of all the evidence, the "homogenized" historical temperature data, no warming per RSS data for 18 years 3 months and statistically none in 26 years, etc., etc., that the fraud which emanates from the AGW / climate change community spews out, makes no headway among the believers.

So what happened in people’s brains when they saw information that contradicted their worldview in a charged political environment? As soon as they recognized the video clips as being in conflict with their worldview, the parts of the brain that handle reason and logic went dormant. And the parts of the brain that handle hostile attacks — the fight-or-flight response — lit up.
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