Venezuela’s coup is a threat to the entire world

Dec 2015
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How many times have "brought nations out of the darkness", we usually just shoot up the elected government and install a regime, usually a repressive authoritarian kleptocracy.
We don't need to drag the tainted reputation of the US military intervention into this mess and we shouldn't
I'm pretty sure that photos of Bolton's legal pad quickly went viral Monday on Twitter, with many users quickly noting that his notes appeared to include the phrase, “5,000 troops to Colombia."

Dems use legal pad notes to push back on a South American troop deployment
 
Oct 2010
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Tell it to Pootie who's stopping it in the UN. The Central American states are going to do nothing, they neer have and as long as there's a Commie socialist influence there it won't change. They see this kind of thing as "normal".
Pootie, why can't we just be friends?

$840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet
at Venezuelan airport: report
About 20 tons of gold from Venezuela's central bank was ready to be hauled away Tuesday on a Russian airline's Boeing 777 that landed in Caracas a day earlier, a Venezuelanlawmaker wrote on Twitter.​
The destination of the $840 million in gold bars was unknown, but a source told Bloomberg News that it represented about 20 percent of the country's holding of the metal. The gold was set aside for loading, the report said.​
...Russia, one of President Nicolas Maduro's staunchest supporters, is reportedly owed billions by the Latin American nation. Russia has said it expects Venezuela to have problems repaying debt ahead of an upcoming payment on a Russian loan.​
Russia also has extensive commercial interests in Venezuela, including state oil company Rosneft’s partnership with Petroleos de Venezuela SA, a state company placed under sanctions Monday by the United States....​

More: $840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet at Venezuelan airport: report
 
Jun 2018
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#13
Pootie, why can't we just be friends?

$840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet
at Venezuelan airport: report
About 20 tons of gold from Venezuela's central bank was ready to be hauled away Tuesday on a Russian airline's Boeing 777 that landed in Caracas a day earlier, a Venezuelanlawmaker wrote on Twitter.​
The destination of the $840 million in gold bars was unknown, but a source told Bloomberg News that it represented about 20 percent of the country's holding of the metal. The gold was set aside for loading, the report said.​
...Russia, one of President Nicolas Maduro's staunchest supporters, is reportedly owed billions by the Latin American nation. Russia has said it expects Venezuela to have problems repaying debt ahead of an upcoming payment on a Russian loan.​
Russia also has extensive commercial interests in Venezuela, including state oil company Rosneft’s partnership with Petroleos de Venezuela SA, a state company placed under sanctions Monday by the United States....​

More: $840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet at Venezuelan airport: report
Familiar pattern, socialist dictator fights the mob till he can hold out no more and the rest of the word is banging on his door. He then calls a "friend" for help and preps to bag the gold and split. Wonders what the split is with Pootie? A Dacha on the outskirts of Moscow? Talk about going from the furnace to the freezer!
20 tons of gold is worth more than $840m Are they talking about Pounds?
 
Oct 2010
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Familiar pattern, socialist dictator fights the mob till he can hold out no more and the rest of the word is banging on his door. He then calls a "friend" for help and preps to bag the gold and split. Wonders what the split is with Pootie? A Dacha on the outskirts of Moscow? Talk about going from the furnace to the freezer!
20 tons of gold is worth more than $840m Are they talking about Pounds?
Do the math. It's about right.

I had to laugh at the plane the Russkis landed: a 777. Russia builds planes, but not even they like what they build.

Russia: Arms, vodka, caviar, oil. That's it. That's what they do. The Russian oligarchs have never lived better, and through "democratic" means, the Russian people have a dictator for life.
 
Sep 2018
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#15
How many times have "brought nations out of the darkness", we usually just shoot up the elected government and install a regime, usually a repressive authoritarian kleptocracy.
We don't need to drag the tainted reputation of the US military intervention into this mess and we shouldn't
this is not an elected government they igned the last election thats the problem
 
Jul 2014
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#16
this is not an elected government they igned the last election thats the problem
Yeah, Clinton got more votes than Trump, but we have our own special way of picking the winner.

Can't Venezuela have their own special way? I mean do you invade a country because you don't like the election result?
 
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Apr 2013
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I agree. After 8 years of a failed government, it is wonderful to see an American President begin to take the lead and bring this nation out of the darkness.
So ya gotcher Vietnam, lots of South and Central America, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and a few others I forget.

How's it lookin' so far?
 
Sep 2015
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Oscar Guardiola-Rivera teaches human rights and philosophy at Birkbeck College, University of London. The following are excerpts from his 28 January 2019 article headlined "What has happened in Venezuela is a coup. Trump’s denial is dangerous" with the subheading "Juan Guaidó has declared himself president. Now the US and rightwing regimes may seek an excuse to intervene in support".

(Begin excerpts)
....Enter Donald Trump: megalomaniac, erratic, liar. Calling out the interventionism of previous US administrations, which had been constant in their hatred for Chavez and their attempts to regain influence in the region, Trump promised to put an end to all such shenanigans. But on Wednesday, vice-president Mike Pence saluted Guaidó’s self-appointment, observing that although Trump disliked intervening elsewhere, he “has always had a very different view of our hemisphere”. That’s an explicit invocation of the Monroe doctrine under which the US has held it as its responsibility to intervene in the Americas, which it sees as its backyard.

Trump swiftly recognised Guaidó as the interim president of Venezuela, and was followed by a cohort of Latin American presidents, all-white, upper-class leaders now spearheading the new reactionary wave in the region: Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, Argentina’s Mauricio Macri, Colombia’s Iván Duque and Chile’s Sebastián Piñera. They’ll proclaim themselves saviours of democracy and humanitarianism, the liars. Draping themselves in the robes of the liberators of yesteryear, just as Guaidó draped himself in the image of Chavez and Bolívar while holding a constitution with the latter’s image on its cover, they’ll happily support further US sanctions, paramilitary forces training Venezuela’s opposition in the torture tactics that displaced 7 million people in Colombia, or using “lawfare” in pan-American institutions just as happened to Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and Dilma Rousseff in Brazil, Manuel Zelaya in Honduras and Fernando Lugo in Paraguay.

Expect such measures to have limited purchase. Washington knows it. Then, Trump and the others will be ready to go for the more muscular approach. Not by accident, this could also benefit Trump as elections approach or if he is cornered by investigations and impeachment. War distracts and makes money. Only this won’t be a regional plunder: China and Russia, both with key interests in Venezuela and elsewhere in the region, have followed Bolivia, Mexico, Uruguay and Cuba to call Guaidó’s stunt by its real name: a coup. Russia has indicated it would come to the defence of its ally. In Venezuela, many who may be critical of Maduro but fear most the return of the rightwing opposition to power are unlikely to cheer the newly converted humanitarians. Unlike the supporters of Chile’s Salvador Allende in 1973, they’re armed. Washington awaits developments on the ground while keeping “all options on the table”. That’s doublespeak for hoping the heavy-handed response by Maduro’s government would provide moral justification for an intervention that would surely be approved by the Organization of American States.

There is plenty to criticise Maduro for: late or misguided economic measures, corruption, power-hoarding. But these criticisms cannot disguise a coup or justify an intervention that, if and when it comes, would engulf us all. Trump counts on Colombia’s Iván Duque, Alvaro Uribe’s appointee, and Brazil’s neo-fascists to support this, contributing troops of their own if needed. A neo-fascist runs one of the Americas’ powerhouses in Brazil; a narcissistic liar afraid of being painted into a corner runs the other. That combination is toxic. War in the name of humanity may tempt them, as it did the more liberal leaders of the past. But this time the stakes are higher. Venezuela’s coup is a threat to the entire world. (End excerpts)

Source: What has happened in Venezuela is a coup. Trump’s denial is dangerous | Oscar Guardiola-Rivera
Venezuela has more proved oil reserves than Saudi Arabia but their people live in abject poverty. If you want to support the communists in Venezuela, buy Citgo gas.
 
Dec 2016
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#20
Pootie, why can't we just be friends?

$840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet
at Venezuelan airport: report
About 20 tons of gold from Venezuela's central bank was ready to be hauled away Tuesday on a Russian airline's Boeing 777 that landed in Caracas a day earlier, a Venezuelanlawmaker wrote on Twitter.​
The destination of the $840 million in gold bars was unknown, but a source told Bloomberg News that it represented about 20 percent of the country's holding of the metal. The gold was set aside for loading, the report said.​
...Russia, one of President Nicolas Maduro's staunchest supporters, is reportedly owed billions by the Latin American nation. Russia has said it expects Venezuela to have problems repaying debt ahead of an upcoming payment on a Russian loan.​
Russia also has extensive commercial interests in Venezuela, including state oil company Rosneft’s partnership with Petroleos de Venezuela SA, a state company placed under sanctions Monday by the United States....​

More: $840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet at Venezuelan airport: report
As usual...you can set your watch by it....America and its allies (England) steal billions in Venezuelan assets abroad, but your concern is that Venezuela is shipping gold reserves to Russia (if I can trust Fox News). Who really stole Ukraine's gold reserves btw? Somehow with all of those spies and forces in place to carry out a regime change, someone was able to just load gold bullion onto a plane and fly out with it! https://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/21/the-latest-heist-us-quietly-snatches-the-ukraines-gold-reserves/

So, maybe this was a pre-emptive strike to prevent the US regime changers from further capitalizing on the remains of Venezuela like they do in every other regime change op!
 

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