Venezuela enters fourth day of blackout as Maduro blames U.S. cyberattack

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The centralization and consolidation of political power required to administer socialism has everything to do with their problems.

And OUR reaction to their socialism has everything to do with it as well. We the single handedly bankrupted the entire nation because we don't agree with their politics. It's regime change. The people of Venezuela are being punished because WE didn't like who they elected.

How long would the lights stay on at your house, if someone took away your primary source of income ??
 
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And OUR reaction to their socialism has everything to do with it as well. We the single handedly bankrupted the entire nation because we don't agree with their politics. It's regime change. The people of Venezuela are being punished because WE didn't like who they elected.

How long would the lights stay on at your house, if someone took away your primary source of income ??
Sorry, no. I'm not buying the assertion that the horrors playing out in Venezuela are our fault.
 
Dec 2016
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The centralization and consolidation of political power required to administer socialism has everything to do with their problems.
Three US administrations in a row running sanctions regimes to try to cripple the Venezuelan economy, and this Idiot in Chief doesn't have the patience to wait for the usual collapse and replacement with US-approved regime that guts the economy and delivers all the benefits to the rich and foreign investors! If you had the chance to stick this handpicked "Guiado" in power, they lost it by playing their hand early.
There's no one in the Venezuelan Military going with gueedo, and all he's got is the rich white and off-white upper classes who live in the capital. The majority......black and indigenous majority know that gueedo would bring in a return of the austerity governments that Chavez overthrew back in the 90's, when he kicked out the Caprilles Government. And if there was a flaw with Chavez "Bolivarian" Revolution it's that it is not an actual socialist economic system running the country! It's a modified capitalist system...along a Keynsian model, that taxes the rich and the national oil company profits, and spends generously on infrastructure and social programs. Venezuela still has at least one fucking billionaire, who's agribusiness and supermarkets manage more than half of the food supply in the country. And except for the national broadcaster, all of the other media is privately owned and run by opponents of Chavismo and anti-socialist....defining socialist down to anything that taxes the rich more than they are willing to pay!

Many Americans aren't aware that during the Chavez years, Hugo Chavez had a CITGO program that provides free heating oil to be sent to poor American city neighborhoods in 2005, and the program continued until the end of 2009, when the international oil price crash forced Venezuela to scale back and re-evaluate all of its free programs for outsiders. And when the program ended, the Obama Administration...............................DID NOTHING! https://www.reuters.com/article/citgo-energy-bronx-assistance-idUSN1425588920071214
 
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The centralization and consolidation of political power required to administer socialism has everything to do with their problems.
Venezuela's problems have been and continue to be caused by the US and it's all because the Koch bros. want to steal their oil.

Doesn't the media blitz about Ven. sound just a bit familiar? It should. It's the same BS they used against Qaddafi, Hussein, Assad and anyone else who has resources and doesn't knuckle under to the petro-dollar, the IMF and corporate rule.

Has ANY country ever been better off after US regime change war?

Take your time, I'll wait.
 
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Sorry, no. I'm not buying the assertion that the horrors playing out in Venezuela are our fault.
Three US administrations in a row running sanctions regimes to try to cripple the Venezuelan economy, and this Idiot in Chief doesn't have the patience to wait for the usual collapse and replacement with US-approved regime that guts the economy and delivers all the benefits to the rich and foreign investors! If you had the chance to stick this handpicked "Guiado" in power, they lost it by playing their hand early.
There's no one in the Venezuelan Military going with gueedo, and all he's got is the rich white and off-white upper classes who live in the capital. The majority......black and indigenous majority know that gueedo would bring in a return of the austerity governments that Chavez overthrew back in the 90's, when he kicked out the Caprilles Government. And if there was a flaw with Chavez "Bolivarian" Revolution it's that it is not an actual socialist economic system running the country! It's a modified capitalist system...along a Keynsian model, that taxes the rich and the national oil company profits, and spends generously on infrastructure and social programs. Venezuela still has at least one fucking billionaire, who's agribusiness and supermarkets manage more than half of the food supply in the country. And except for the national broadcaster, all of the other media is privately owned and run by opponents of Chavismo and anti-socialist....defining socialist down to anything that taxes the rich more than they are willing to pay!

Many Americans aren't aware that during the Chavez years, Hugo Chavez had a CITGO program that provides free heating oil to be sent to poor American city neighborhoods in 2005, and the program continued until the end of 2009, when the international oil price crash forced Venezuela to scale back and re-evaluate all of its free programs for outsiders. And when the program ended, the Obama Administration...............................DID NOTHING! https://www.reuters.com/article/citgo-energy-bronx-assistance-idUSN1425588920071214

Finally, somebody who knows what reality is.
You forgot to mention the international oil price crash was caused by the US with the help of Saudi over production for, at least, the last 10 years.
 
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