We need a ...wall...where the border patrol and National Security people say it is needed. It is

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totally disgusting the Dems will NOT listen to them and get on with the business of the nation. Heck, Perlosi could even take her little vacation trip to visit Brussels and token trip to Afghanistan.
 
Apr 2013
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totally disgusting the Dems will NOT listen to them and get on with the business of the nation. Heck, Perlosi could even take her little vacation trip to visit Brussels and token trip to Afghanistan.
AND once again (this has been posted any number of times): Trump was offered money for the wall at least THREE TIMES--by the Dems. He said no thanks. Trump and his GOP cult controlled this country for two years. Why didn't the GOP give him the money for the wall? They had the votes and did nothing to further the wall. In fact, the GOP knew (at that time) there was a possibility they would lose the House to Dems, but still did nothing *NOTHING* to further the wall. WHY?

If Trump wanted a "fence" (decorative steel slats) why didn't he say so? If Trump wanted PORTIONS of the wall built, why didn't he say so? If Trump did NOT want to employ Eminent Domain why didn't he say so?
Trump has never addressed these questions and many MANY OTHERS and neither has the GOP who supports him. WHY?

This issue is no longer JUST about the wall. It's about immigration. It's about fixing the broken system. It's about penalizing employers who hire illegals---such as TRUMP himself. It's about DACA. It's about native lands. It's about the environment. It's a complicated issue that Trump, in all his ignorance, has never really addressed....because he doesn't have the intelligence or foresight God gave a gnat.
 
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If Trump wanted a "fence" (decorative steel slats) why didn't he say so? If Trump wanted PORTIONS of the wall built, why didn't he say so? If Trump did NOT want to employ Eminent Domain why didn't he say so?
First, no one asked him. WHY? Because they wanted to do exactly what you're doing now. Just in case you missed it, no one with a IQ above room temp believes any of this screed you posted.
OBTW breaking news, illegal who murdered 4 in NV in custody. Liberal stupidity abounds.
Build the wall!
 
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...If Trump wanted a "fence" (decorative steel slats) why didn't he say so? If Trump wanted PORTIONS of the wall built, why didn't he say so? If Trump did NOT want to employ Eminent Domain why didn't he say so?
Trump has never addressed these questions and many MANY OTHERS and neither has the GOP who supports him. WHY?
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First, no one asked him. WHY? Because they wanted to do exactly what you're doing now. Just in case you missed it, no one with a IQ above room temp believes any of this screed you posted.
OBTW breaking news, illegal who murdered 4 in NV in custody. Liberal stupidity abounds.
Build the wall!
Actually, many many people have asked about the details of the wall and it has remained largely a secret Trump glorious plan of variable extent, cost, and impact.
5 Questions the Trump Administration Needs to Answer About the Border Wall - Center for American Progress
Trump Lectures Press on Border Wall, Takes No Questions


I find the clickerII response to reflect the remarkable inability of Trumpists to accept ANY criticism of the Trump. No one asked him? How absurd can that response be? The press and opposition just failed to get Trump to explain his "wall" so any controversy or questions about the Wall are due to the media?

Perhaps clicker, who is in favor of the wall, can explain EXACTLY where the wall will be, how it will be constructed, the exact benefit that it will have, and the long term cost -benefit of this mythical "wall". Otherwise the only conclusion possible for clicker's enthusiasm is that he has only a political reason for the wall, not an informed argument to support it.
 
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Here's the problem with the wall as it currently stands. We do not have a cohesive plan. NO construction engineers have been hired. NO architects. NO environmental engineers. The CBP hasn't been consulted. Much less state and local officials. NO one has really looked at the legal issues that will be involved. There hasn't been a serious look at where construction versus other technologies will be most effective.

I'm all for border protection but we do not have anything resembling a fucking PLAN. The CBP needs to submit a report on what parts of the existing wall need to be upgraded or repaired and where they think new construction will be most effective. After that we need to hire a firm with the above mentioned engineering and legal people needed, to complete a study and cost analysis.

Instead of just throwing billions of dollars at the area all hap hazard and with no real plan, the first thing we need is to develop an actual cohesive plan. I've support spending a few million on that. Then we can discuss how to implement the plan.
 
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Here's the problem with the wall as it currently stands. We do not have a cohesive plan. NO construction engineers have been hired. NO architects. NO environmental engineers. The CBP hasn't been consulted. Much less state and local officials. NO one has really looked at the legal issues that will be involved. There hasn't been a serious look at where construction versus other technologies will be most effective.

I'm all for border protection but we do not have anything resembling a fucking PLAN. The CBP needs to submit a report on what parts of the existing wall need to be upgraded or repaired and where they think new construction will be most effective. After that we need to hire a firm with the above mentioned engineering and legal people needed, to complete a study and cost analysis.

Instead of just throwing billions of dollars at the area all hap hazard and with no real plan, the first thing we need is to develop an actual cohesive plan. I've support spending a few million on that. Then we can discuss how to implement the plan.

Exactly right. We have so few details. WHY? AND if this fencing/wall is going to be constructed in the near future WHO is going to build it? Federal employees?? Nope--Not if they are shut down. I don't know much about building enormous steel fences but I'm betting they don't go up overnight. Has ANY preliminary work been approved?
In December Homeland Security officials stated they have plans to erect 215 miles of new AND replacement barrier fence.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection outlined how they would use the $5 billion if Congress allocated the money--which they didn't. Construction would be deployed first to the Texas' Rio Grande Valley, officials said.
BUT......to build new barriers, the federal government must first secure the land to build them on. Unlike other border states, most of the land along the Texas border is privately owned, and many landowners have been critical of the administration's plan to build barriers on their property. On the border in Texas, more than 5,000 property parcels sit within feet of the border, meaning far more private property would be required to extend the current fencing.

AND we're back to the beginning. No money. No land. No builders. Here's the latest model.

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Exactly right. We have so few details. WHY? AND if this fencing/wall is going to be constructed in the near future WHO is going to build it? Federal employees?? Nope--Not if they are shut down. I don't know much about building enormous steel fences but I'm betting they don't go up overnight. Has ANY preliminary work been approved?
In December Homeland Security officials stated they have plans to erect 215 miles of new AND replacement barrier fence.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection outlined how they would use the $5 billion if Congress allocated the money--which they didn't. Construction would be deployed first to the Texas' Rio Grande Valley, officials said.
BUT......to build new barriers, the federal government must first secure the land to build them on. Unlike other border states, most of the land along the Texas border is privately owned, and many landowners have been critical of the administration's plan to build barriers on their property. On the border in Texas, more than 5,000 property parcels sit within feet of the border, meaning far more private property would be required to extend the current fencing.

AND we're back to the beginning. No money. No land. No builders. Here's the latest model.

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I think about everyone except Spence has said this design is a lying Trump wet dream.
 
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