What has gone wrong with American democracy?

Jul 2018
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Trump World! Where the circus is always in town.
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The rich took over over a century ago, starting with robber barons colluding with the state, then the Fed, followed by a combination of the a military-industrial complex needed to keep the petrodollar propped up and a debt-and-spending economy.
yeah, your jeffersons, adams and washingtons were paupers.

god bless you
 
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Aug 2019
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Albuquerque, NM
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Right wing propaganda coupled with a bunch of greedy rich folks who just keep fighting and influencing politicains to get their way to make even more money. REagan started this "greed is good" nonsense that has lead to the rich sucking up all the wealth
 
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Mar 2018
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Grayson
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When was the Democrat Party labeled the Party of minorities? Was it when the Democrats turned a blind eye to the illegal alien invasion in hopes of creating a voting-base subservient to the Democrats? It didn't take the GOP to point out the obvious. And of course, anyone objecting to that will be accused of racism.
The leadership of the Democrats is well aware of the foreigners here. That's how they got you taking a giant sh!+ on the Constitution while doing their dirty work. You see, I won't deny that a problem exists; however, it's not an invasion. An invasion happens when an army comes in and takes your country by force. So you set yourself to looking like a full on retard.

The majority of the American people willingly do business with the foreigners. When it becomes unprofitable; if they get tired of watching America become brown, then the American people will use the power of their wallets and purses and boycott the brown people and those companies that use their services. Until then it is a mutually beneficial relationship, not an "invasion."

What you want is a government big enough to save you from yourself. That's exactly what the Democrats want. They simply used reverse psychology to flip you to the side of liberalism. Take a look at this and then see if you know WHEN the sides switched (supposedly) and why:



How do you suppose the right came up with socialist talking points and solutions (if you can call regression a solution)????
 
Jun 2019
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Saying the Democrats create a voting base from illegals is an ignorant statement beyond compare. To say they are the ones taking a giant sh*t on the constitution is a complete fallacy especially when we can compare them to the New Right, who have been brought to court for such offenses.

With that said to generalize and bash one party over the other really doesn't serve us any good in any way, it only divides us.

Quote: "When it becomes unprofitable; if they get tired of watching America become brown, then the American people will use the power of their wallets and purses and boycott the brown people and those companies that use their services."
You don't want to be considered racist and then post comments such as this. You choose to boycott companies from "brown people", if that's not racist I don't know what is, get over it, some people's skin is darker than pasty white.
 
Feb 2014
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#75
Hum, how about the Christian Nationalism that got Trump elected and supports our militarism? It is well organized and is now Judeo-Christian tieing the US with Israel and opposing Muslims.

What about our dependency on oil and what that has to do with our tie with Saudi Arabia and opposition to Iran?

Then there is our relationship with China, which is a history of the West attempting to exploit China and hurting it, resulting in it becoming communist? Right now China has far more engineering graduates than the US. Might that education difference lead to China surpassing the technology of the US and result in China surpassing the US economically and militarily? What about China owning treasuring bonds? Could that become a problem?

Has our past lead to problems around the world and could that become a problem for us in the future? Could a united East threaten us? Like maybe the East being divided by communism and capitalism worked in our favor, but things could get worse for us if the East was united? South America isn't real pleased with us. How long can we do well with international enemies?
 
Feb 2014
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Right wing propaganda coupled with a bunch of greedy rich folks who just keep fighting and influencing politicians to get their way to make even more money. REagan started this "greed is good" nonsense that has lead to the rich sucking up all the wealth
Oh, yes, The Reagan administration used the new ties with research and the media created by Eisenhower, to focus research on research of welfare fraud and then used the findings of this research to scapegoat the poor for our bad economy, when the OPEC embargo of oil caused our economy to crash. This made it possible for his administration to slash domestic spending and pour money into military spending and the US effective regained control of the mid-east enough end the embargo of oil. This has made military spending our priority ever since, and we have experienced a huge shift in wealth and power.

I very much appreciated the Democrats standing for the idea that our economic problem was caused by bad decisions form the top, not the poor. Unfortunately, though, this did not prevent Greenspan and his top-down thinking from leading us into a banking crisis that crashed our economy again. And who was hurt? It was not the banks that got bailed out but all the little people and homeowners. Now instead of terrible loans being made to homeowners, they are terrible loans made to young people for college loans. Our banking system needs correction and we just aren't talking about this. Why? Is it because our media is silent about the growing problem?
 
Feb 2014
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For the Fed. government as a whole, it's not about quality of life, it's about power.
Power is temporary. Socrates said something to the effect that when people are being hurt, sooner or later they will become a problem to those who have hurt them. This might take several generations, as the problems created by slavery are still with us, but sooner or later, the wrongful use of power will become a problem that has to be resolved. An argument for democracy is we can handle our problems with reasoning. Unfortunately, as the Declaration of Independence says, we wait until the problems are unbearable before we act.
 
Dec 2015
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#78
The problem with the topic is the presumption that at ONE point (no one knows exactly when) our Democracy/Republic was perfection--or close to it. It wasn't. It never has been, for all sorts of reasons. Let's start with imperfect men creating something new, novel and move on to imperfect citizens who, in order to have a well-oiled Republic were required to have something called personal responsibility. The idea of democracy itself guarantees no success. Ill-managed, it is a letdown; well-handled, it satisfies if personal liberties are promoted, with a little help from Uncle Sam.
What good is a democracy if no one votes? What good is a democracy if one or more branches of government fail. What good is a democracy if the lawmakers, cabinet members and presidents are corrupt?

Our democracy is a work in progress. Once in a while, we get a wake-up call--like the one we got in 2016---like the ones when the Electoral College failed us. We MAY get back on track for a bit, but eventually, we retreat to our comfort zone: "Let someone else decide or step up or get involved."

Other reasons for our imperfections or failures?
*WE GREW and GREW and GREW. It must have been just a bit easier to govern when we were 50 million or even 100 million, but 330 million?
*We live longer.
*We are no longer quite so naive because our communications systems/technology has changed and improved.
*We have allowed capitalistic greed to rule this nation.
*We have allowed powerful lobbies to control our lawmakers.
*We have elected incompetent, indecent, dishonorable MEN to make our decisions.
So what DID WE expect to happen? Has that ever made nations BETTER?
AND we have a party who is convinced that progressive ideas are NEVER good. Bigger government is NEVER good. Feeding the poor is NEVER a good idea. Taking care of our environment is stupid.....etc. etc. etc.
 
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Jun 2019
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The problem with the topic is the presumption that at ONE point (no one knows exactly when) our Democracy/Republic was perfection--or close to it. It wasn't. It never has been, for all sorts of reasons. Let's start with imperfect men creating something new, novel and move on to imperfect citizens who, in order to have a well-oiled Republic were required to have something called personal responsibility. The idea of democracy itself guarantees no success. Ill-managed, it is a letdown; well-handled, it satisfies if personal liberties are promoted, with a little help from Uncle Sam.
What good is a democracy if no one votes? What good is a democracy if one or more branches of government fail. What good is a democracy if the lawmakers, cabinet members and presidents are corrupt?

Our democracy is a work in progress. Once in a while, we get a wake-up call--like the one we got in 2016---like the ones when the Electoral College failed us. We MAY get back on track for a bit, but eventually, we retreat to our comfort zone: "Let someone else decide or step up or get involved."

Other reasons for our imperfections or failures?
*WE GREW and GREW and GREW. It must have been just a bit easier to govern when we were 50 million or even 100 million, but 330 million?
*We live longer.
*We are no longer quite so naive because our communications systems/technology has changed and improved.
*We have allowed capitalistic greed to rule this nation.
*We have allowed powerful lobbies to control our lawmakers.
*We have elected incompetent, indecent, dishonorable MEN to make our decisions.
So what DID WE expect to happen? Has that ever made nations BETTER?
AND we have a party who is convinced that progressive ideas are NEVER good. Bigger government is NEVER good. Feeding the poor is NEVER a good idea. Taking care of our environment is stupid.....etc. etc. etc.
Don't get too discouraged Clara, there are people out there fighting for the people, and this time around there are quite a few good people running for president, who also sincerely care for our country and it's citizens, the everyday Joe.
 
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