What the hell is wrong with Georgia?

Nov 2012
40,781
11,759
Lebanon, TN
#71
Women Who Have an Abortion in Georgia Could Soon Be Sentenced to Life in Prison

HB 481, which is due to take effect on January 1, 2020, would also have consequences for women who suffer a miscarriage. If a woman were to miscarry based on her behavior—such as use of drugs or alcohol—she would be liable for second-degree murder, which is punishable to 10 to 30 years' imprisonment. Even if she opted to leave Georgia to obtain an abortion—she'd still be just as liable for punishment in the state. If a woman travels to another state for an abortion, she may be charged with conspiracy to commit murder, which can lead to 10 years’ imprisonment. And if you're a woman who wants to help a friend cross state lines for her abortion, you could also be charged with "conspiracy."

It's nice to know that Georgia has such an abundance of tax dollars, and nothing that needs funding, that they can waste money on crap like this!

now now there is a difference in a surgical abortion and a spontaneous abortion. Medically and in this law.
 
Nov 2013
2,582
1,112
NM
#73
Strange this picture looks like it is from central florida? I think a Dawg would have a problem with this.
Yah. Wiki (see File:The 10,000 Hookworm Family.jpg - Wikimedia Commons) says they were from AL, & that they were celebrities of a sort:

"This family from Alabama was presented as "white trash" celebrities who had escaped the debilitating effects of hookworm."

If that's true, then this family probably did look a lot better than their counterparts who suffered from hookworm.
 
May 2013
5,419
4,613
arkansas
#75
now now there is a difference in a surgical abortion and a spontaneous abortion. Medically and in this law.
The law says "miscarriage" and allows for investigations into these to determine 'if' the woman did anything to cause it. Note it says 'the use of drugs or alcohol'. Alcohol is LEGAL!

What this law does, besides make womens uteri the property of the state....see the part where she can be prosecuted for leaving the state for an abortion in a state where it's legal.....is criminalize legal behavior if it could harm the embryo or fetus. And please note that they did not specify 'illegal' drugs. There are many drugs some women depend upon that are dangerous to an embryo or fetus.

What it does is grant superior rights to embryos and feti.
 
Dec 2015
17,059
15,991
Arizona
#76
Almost nobody wants this bill to take effect.
It's a wedge issue, the GOP's way of telling those evangelical lunatics that the GOP believes women are sub humans, here to serve man, but without the same rights as MAN.
They pass this nonsense, the deplorables are ecstatic, the court says "no fucking way", and they launch into their "persecuted Christian" rhetoric.
More votes for Trump.
And what they hope is that the people who think women have rights will dismiss this as political theatre, that no one ever expected to take effect, and they would rather have tax cuts so this really doesn't bother them.

I kind of hope that the court upholds it, and in the week before the election, a doctor gets sentenced to life in prison, and numerous women get put in prison for years. Just to remind people what GOP stands for, "Giant Orange Prick".
The bill is solely symbolic. That's it. It is a vote-getter in Georgia.
 
Nov 2018
4,231
2,220
Inner Space
#77
now now there is a difference in a surgical abortion and a spontaneous abortion. Medically and in this law.
Why would that be correct given the personhood argument?

What happens if, after a surgical procedure on the abdomen for, say appendicitis, there is a spontaneous abortion, since it is a known medical fact that surgery and anesthesia can result in unintentional abortions?

How about if the woman is driving recklessly, has an accident, and subsequently has a spontaneous abortion? MURDER?
 
Mar 2013
9,933
10,699
Middle Tennessee
#78
The law says "miscarriage" and allows for investigations into these to determine 'if' the woman did anything to cause it. Note it says 'the use of drugs or alcohol'. Alcohol is LEGAL!

What this law does, besides make womens uteri the property of the state....see the part where she can be prosecuted for leaving the state for an abortion in a state where it's legal.....is criminalize legal behavior if it could harm the embryo or fetus. And please note that they did not specify 'illegal' drugs. There are many drugs some women depend upon that are dangerous to an embryo or fetus.

What it does is grant superior rights to embryos and feti.

Make no mistake about it. This IS a well financed and coordinated attack on America by the American Christian Taliban. The ACT are in pursuit of nothing less than their own Christianized version of Sharian law AND apartheid !!! A very small minority is seeking to impose their will on the entire country. It's no mistake that Georgia is but the latest of several red states to introduce and/or pass extreme anti-abortion bills. For all their crying about "deep state" the truth is there is some seriously deep dark money, probably coming through the mega churches, flowing into campaign coffers all over the red states and driving these neanderthal, redneck, hillbilly politicians to pass these bills. This is a full on attack on the women of this country. This is a cancer and we desperately need to find it and cut it out. These people WILL be the destruction of this country. They DO NOT care about anyone's God given and constitutionally guaranteed RIGHTS !!! They will strip away the amendments in their zeal. They are seeking nothing less than a full blown theocracy. This is the American Christian Taliban making their power play. This is why they voted for a man like Trump. They don't care that he has every flaw they have ever held against every other politician that's ever run for office. They know as long as they stroke his narcissistic little insecure ego, that fucking moron will do what ever they want. For all his bluster and blather, the ACT has their hands WAY up Trump's ass. He is far more of a puppet than any president before him. He's stupid and as long as these people stroke his ego and stoke his maniacal narcissism he'll do what ever they want. He'll support anything or any one they want. You don't think he is actually choosing all those hard core uber-conservative, alt-right judges the fright wing controlled senate is currently stacking the courts with do you ??

For anyone that supports these bills I have a few questions.

1) If LIFE begins at 6 weeks, is THAT when the CHILD SUPPORT KICKS IN ??? Let's face it pregnancy is very expensive, even if you don't have complications. I'm sure working women all over the country will greatly appreciate the extra income while they're taking time off work to see the doctors.

2) If at 6 week the fetus has full rights as a US citizen, does that mean we can no longer deport pregnant illegals. If their unborn fetus has full legal rights then we can't deport the mother without deporting the LEGAL citizen she is carrying !!!!

3) Cat this is just for you. If the fetus has full rights at 6 weeks, does that mean the mother will able to take out a life insurance policy on her unborn child and if there is a miscarriage, get to collect the death benefit just as if the child had been born alive ???
 
Dec 2015
17,059
15,991
Arizona
#80
Make no mistake about it. This IS a well financed and coordinated attack on America by the American Christian Taliban. The ACT are in pursuit of nothing less than their own Christianized version of Sharian law AND apartheid !!! A very small minority is seeking to impose their will on the entire country. It's no mistake that Georgia is but the latest of several red states to introduce and/or pass extreme anti-abortion bills. For all their crying about "deep state" the truth is there is some seriously deep dark money, probably coming through the mega churches, flowing into campaign coffers all over the red states and driving these neanderthal, redneck, hillbilly politicians to pass these bills. This is a full on attack on the women of this country. This is a cancer and we desperately need to find it and cut it out. These people WILL be the destruction of this country. They DO NOT care about anyone's God given and constitutionally guaranteed RIGHTS !!! They will strip away the amendments in their zeal. They are seeking nothing less than a full blown theocracy. This is the American Christian Taliban making their power play. This is why they voted for a man like Trump. They don't care that he has every flaw they have ever held against every other politician that's ever run for office. They know as long as they stroke his narcissistic little insecure ego, that fucking moron will do what ever they want. For all his bluster and blather, the ACT has their hands WAY up Trump's ass. He is far more of a puppet than any president before him. He's stupid and as long as these people stroke his ego and stoke his maniacal narcissism he'll do what ever they want. He'll support anything or any one they want. You don't think he is actually choosing all those hard core uber-conservative, alt-right judges the fright wing controlled senate is currently stacking the courts with do you ??

For anyone that supports these bills I have a few questions.

1) If LIFE begins at 6 weeks, is THAT when the CHILD SUPPORT KICKS IN ??? Let's face it pregnancy is very expensive, even if you don't have complications. I'm sure working women all over the country will greatly appreciate the extra income while they're taking time off work to see the doctors.

2) If at 6 week the fetus has full rights as a US citizen, does that mean we can no longer deport pregnant illegals. If their unborn fetus has full legal rights then we can't deport the mother without deporting the LEGAL citizen she is carrying !!!!

3) Cat this is just for you. If the fetus has full rights at 6 weeks, does that mean the mother will able to take out a life insurance policy on her unborn child and if there is a miscarriage, get to collect the death benefit just as if the child had been born alive ???
Brilliant post!

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