When will the RW finally admit it?

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Demonstrably false. He's literally doing what the 14th Amendment Section 2 commands that he do while you happily watch ANTIFA attack journalists and the elderly and social media ban and censor half the country. Not to mention the executive orderer and chief that you fawned over for 8 years on your knees while he literally blocked the CIA from going after Hezbollah drug rings and put children in cages that you now call Nazi Germany.

Secondly, the Supreme Court literally said his act is Constitutional, but that they were interested in a more detailed reason. So he's performing what the SC just described as a Constitutional act and the Constitution itself commands under its own authority, which trumps all. What are you going to get him on? Performing an act commanded by the Constitution, of which Obama is the only President to not enforce? Or perhaps you'll try to nail him for performing an act the SC literally just said is Constitutional. Good luck with that.

But let's cut the crap. He can get all the info he'll ever need from pre Obama censuses, and then begin shrinking the number of representatives in heavily illegal immigrant filled liberal districts.

You know what's vile, evil and tyrannical? Owning the House simply because of people who aren't even US citizens per census ommission of a question which is obviously 100% valid in your own country, then whining about foreign influences in elections that your party completely made up per Saul Alinsky tactics.
You know what is unconstitutional? Trying to purposefully miscount the number of PEOPLE (the constituent does not say count the citizens it says count the PEOPLE) to try and get the results you want in Congress.
 
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Demonstrably false. He's literally doing what the 14th Amendment Section 2 commands that he do while you happily watch ANTIFA attack journalists and the elderly and social media ban and censor half the country. Not to mention the executive orderer and chief that you fawned over for 8 years on your knees while he literally blocked the CIA from going after Hezbollah drug rings and put children in cages that you now call Nazi Germany.

Secondly, the Supreme Court literally said his act is Constitutional, but that they were interested in a more detailed reason. So he's performing what the SC just described as a Constitutional act and the Constitution itself commands under its own authority, which trumps all. What are you going to get him on? Performing an act commanded by the Constitution, of which Obama is the only President to not enforce? Or perhaps you'll try to nail him for performing an act the SC literally just said is Constitutional. Good luck with that.

But let's cut the crap. He can get all the info he'll ever need from pre Obama censuses, and then begin shrinking the number of representatives in heavily illegal immigrant filled liberal districts.

You know what's vile, evil and tyrannical? Owning the House simply because of people who aren't even US citizens per census ommission of a question which is obviously 100% valid in your own country, then whining about foreign influences in elections that your party completely made up per Saul Alinsky tactics.

You have misrepresented why the administration's request was denied:

It is well within the power of a presidential administration to ask about citizenship status, a majority of the justices wrote, but it needs to be clear and up-front about why. The Trump team wasn't.

Now it's back to the drawing board for the White House, with little if any time to find a way forward.
US top court blocks census citizenship question

"Why" matters. And if they can't provide an answer, they can't do it. Anyone with a functioning brain knows why, they want fewer people to be counted on the census. Therefore the census is inaccurate, and the GOP can then run roughshod all over states they don't like and reappropriate electoral votes.

It's obvious what they're trying to do. They want the population undercounted so they can change the electoral votes each state gets. But you already knew that, didn't you?
 
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No shit, he's allowed to write EO.
But, can he write one for the express purpose of circumventing a SCOTUS ruling he does not like?
If he can ignore the Congress and the SCOTUS simply by writing an EO that would pretty much make him a dictator ruling by devree, would it not?
Didn't Andrew Jackson tell the SCOTUS to go screw itself? He did what he wanted.
 
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BTW, the president is allowed to issue executive orders; are you saying he isn't?
If we're going to allow the president to rule via Executive Orders, then you have a dictatorship.

CLEARLY, the qualified body to resolve this would have been Congress. Pass laws... that's what Congress does. Is Trump such a dolt he didn't know that or maybe... he might be playing you.
 
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That's why the court tossed it out.
Not really. Roberts probably voted the way he did for one of two reasons, neither of which are valid when past performance of the SCOTUS is taken into consideration. He might have voted the way he did because he simply does not like Trump, a valid reason in the liberal psyche. He also may have voted that way because he agreed with the liberal minority that motive, as obscure as it is in this case, is sufficient to deny a positive judgement. Motive is rarely taken into consideration in SCOTUS proceedings. Some are even calling it unprecedented.
 
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The question, citizenship has NOT appeared on the regular census form since 1950. It did appear on the LONG form in 1970 and again in 2000, but ONLY on the long form which was sent to a much smaller number of households. The majority of people got the short form which did not include the question.

So Eisenhower didn't ask the question. Nixon only asked it on the long form. Carter didn't ask and W only on the long form. Obama didn't ask.

The other issue is that Trump couldn't present the court with a valid reason for including it. They aren't likely to be honest with the court, and no court would accept their reason if they were. Deceased G.O.P. Strategist’s Hard Drives Reveal New Details on the Census Citizenship Question
The fact that the citizenship question wasn't asked on other census forms shows that the forms didn't comply with the requirements in Section 2 of the 14th Amendment.


Section 2.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

You can have 50 million people in a State but only 1 million citizens. If 300,000 citizens are denied the right to vote then the number of representatives must be reduced. So, to be in compliance, it is necessary to know how many citizens are in each State.

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