Where are the Republicans going?

Dec 2015
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I watched OPB last night and got a blow by blow account of the elections. Republicans won wherever Trump campaigned for them. Perhaps we need to get out of denial and accept many people are in favor of Trump and try to figure out why? Where I live democrats are the majority, but that is not true of all places. It is mind-boggling to me that there our country seems to be so seriously culturally split. I am curious, which of us are living in a blue state and which of us are living in red states? How much impact does this have on our arguments?

Not so, Athena. Trump campaigned in my home state of Wisconsin and Democrats TOOK the governorship. In Ohio, Sherrod Brown held his Senate seat and five other Democrats kept their state seats. Iowa kept their Democratic House. Montana Democrat Jon Tester kept his Senate seat. These are just some examples of Trump's campaigning did NOT help the GOP.

Trump also came to Arizona although he was NOT welcome....and Arizona is a Red State.
The GOP is still in control here.
 
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Feb 2014
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Oregon
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To answer the question of where are the Republicans going, to jail. Seriously. Imprison all of them. If you supported, voted for or endorsed the GOP then you should be arrested, your property seized and you should be imprisoned. I do not care if you have a baby in a crib. Your house is gone, the place you lived is gone. If you are a married couple who split your vote, then you are both guilty. One of you had a chance to leave. Do not tolerate the GOP at all. Push up on them, attack them, get in their face and make them feel unwelcome. 2020 needs to be complete Democrat control. Then we can begin to abolish the GOP, embrace Socialism openly as part of the Democratic platform and slowly move to a wonderful Communist state. Abolishing all the individual states and the Senate. Allow Democratic control of an election process that only allows Communist members. Its going to happen much earlier than many of us had anticipated. Finally freedom from capitalism will be at hand
That is a little extreme. I don't think the majority will accept communism. Sparta was basically a moneyless economy and all decisions were made by the governing military. Athens stood against that and thank goodness they did because the benefits of individual choice and many. I don't think we want to give up our liberty. A degree of socialism may be preferred.
 
Dec 2015
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11,846
Arizona
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Not so, Athena. Trump campaigned in my home state of Wisconsin and Democrats TOOK the governorship. In Ohio, Sherrod Brown held his Senate seat and five other Democrats kept their state seats. Iowa kept their Democratic House. Montana Democrat Jon Tester kept his Senate seat. These are just some examples of Trump's campaigning did NOT help the GOP.

Trump also came to Arizona although he was NOT welcome....and Arizona is a Red State.
The GOP is still in control here.

Correction: The senate race has not been called yet. McSally (R) was leading but there are still thousands of ballots to be counted and Sinema (D) is now leading. This is to fill Jeff Flake's seat.
Also, our State Superintendent of Schools is a race too close to call--still counting votes. 75% of Arizonans mail in the ballot or drop them at the polls.
 
Sep 2015
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That is a little extreme. I don't think the majority will accept communism. Sparta was basically a moneyless economy and all decisions were made by the governing military. Athens stood against that and thank goodness they did because the benefits of individual choice and many. I don't think we want to give up our liberty. A degree of socialism may be preferred.
There is no freedom in individualism. True freedom is not having to make decisions and allowing the State to do that for you
 
Feb 2014
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There is no freedom in individualism. True freedom is not having to make decisions and allowing the State to do that for you

That appears to come from Hegel's thinking and is what we fought against in two world wars. Were you being sarcastic or do you want to say why you think that is a good thing? For sure liberty is a heavy burden and it is essential to be carefully educated for good moral judgment if we are to have liberty and democracy. But I really don't think having to obey someone else's judgment rather than think for myself would be desirable. Thousands of people died for nothing if what you said is what most people want.
 

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