Why are there so many George Soros conspiracy theories?

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Why are there so many George Soros conspiracy theories?

Who is George Soros?
Born to a Hungarian Jewish family in 1930, Soros and his family survived the Nazi occupation during the Second World War by obtaining forged papers identifying them as Christians.
After the War, he studied at the London School of Economics (LSE) before starting a career in finance that saw him work his way from London bank clerk to Wall Street billionaire.

In 1993, Soros founded the Open Society Foundations (OSF), a philanthropic organisation that funds progressive causes around the world.

As well as being one of the world’s richest men, however, he is also one of the most talked about in conspiracy theory circles.

Why Soros?
Soros’s liberal politics and internationalist values, combined with his immense wealth, makes him a natural target for conspiracy theories. However, the spotlight placed on him by a reactionary fringe also has a more sinister historical root.

The figure of the wealthy Jewish “puppet master” secretly controlling world affairs has been a favourite subject of conspiracy theories since the 19th century, when the Rothschild banking dynasty were the chief targets.

In 2017, billboards put up by the Hungarian government featuring an image of a grinning Soros were compared to Nazi propaganda, The Guardian reports, with Hungary’s largest Jewish organisation calling the posters “poisonous”.

Why are there so many George Soros conspiracy theories?
 
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It's not all about antisemitism nor are all conspiracy theories fake! Sometimes there's a conspiracy theory because there's a real conspiracy!
In Soros case, there are many reasons why he is particularly hated and his 'philanthropy' in Europe isn't appreciated by everyone, but over here, what Soros's 'charities' do mostly is try to take control and set the limits for activist groups on the left, and their biggest achievement was turning the Democratic Party into a pro-business/anti-labor centrist party under the guidance of Bill Clinton. Anyone actually on the left should already understand that Soros is toxic, as is all billionaire charity and foundation money...whether it's from supposedly liberal billionaires like Soros or conservatives! They all serve the interests of international capital above all else!
 
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Because the right wing makes them up, they never talk about Sheldon Adelson, Robert Mercer or the Koch brothers. He has an Open Society org and they think it means open boarders, which it doesn't (they know it but still say it). It means equal rights to all within a country. He also has US citizenship, and they (the GOP) only have Citizens United to blame for orgs to finance political groups.
 
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It's not all about antisemitism nor are all conspiracy theories fake! Sometimes there's a conspiracy theory because there's a real conspiracy!
In Soros case, there are many reasons why he is particularly hated and his 'philanthropy' in Europe isn't appreciated by everyone, but over here, what Soros's 'charities' do mostly is try to take control and set the limits for activist groups on the left, and their biggest achievement was turning the Democratic Party into a pro-business/anti-labor centrist party under the guidance of Bill Clinton. Anyone actually on the left should already understand that Soros is toxic, as is all billionaire charity and foundation money...whether it's from supposedly liberal billionaires like Soros or conservatives! They all serve the interests of international capital above all else!
You give him too much credit. Actually the largest donors for Democrats are Steyers and Bloomberg. LOL. We are progressives and since the GOP ok'd Citizens United, we can use as much money as we can get. Look at Rep O'Rouke, he takes no money from pacs, unlike Cruz.
 
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You give him too much credit. Actually the largest donors for Democrats are Steyers and Bloomberg. LOL. We are progressives and since the GOP ok'd Citizens United, we can use as much money as we can get. Look at Rep O'Rouke, he takes no money from pacs, unlike Cruz.
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Because the right wing makes them up, they never talk about Sheldon Adelson, Robert Mercer or the Koch brothers. He has an Open Society org and they think it means open boarders, which it doesn't (they know it but still say it). It means equal rights to all within a country. He also has US citizenship, and they (the GOP) only have Citizens United to blame for orgs to finance political groups.
You're missing my main point that anyone can drive a truck through whatever "Progressive" stands for and not actually hit anything! And that is primarily because of big money on the so called 'left' interfering and tinkering with the process and redirecting attention of group members and onlookers looking for direction/but not actively involved in the day to day running of DSA and other change agents.

The biggest change I've noticed over the decades since big money started funding/and controlling liberal and even left organizations since the mid-70's is that all attention and activities end at US borders now. If we go back to the 60's, the black activist groups ranging from radical to relatively mainstream were all consciously aware of and did not forget about international issues...especially while the Vietnam War was still ongoing and the results of the Pentagon Money-sucking machine that was taking money out of domestic priorities, could be seen every day on the nightly news!

Today's 'progressives' and even so called new socialists have little or usually absolutely nothing to say about US foreign policy, the exponential growth in US war and security and surveillance spending, and the impacts of US foreign policy in all the places where the bombs are dropping! Instead, even the so called 'Democratic Socialists' like Bernie, and sadly even the new, younger generation who have decided to step on the political stage, like Alexandria Cortez and Julia Salazar, think all they have to do is stay on their talking points about: nationwide $15/hr min. wage, universal healthcare and free tuition (again) for public colleges and universities.

If money could grow on trees, as some Keynsians and what's called MMT( Modern Monetary Theorists) believe, maybe you could do it all! Create trillions in new dollars and fund an oppressive international commercial empire and all the domestic spending on your wish list, BUT all new currency/debt obligations created by fiat out of thin air, are claims on future real assets. YOu can go running off the edge of a cliff and keep going like Wile E. Coyote for only so long! And the rumbling signs of combined stock and bond market collapse, along with more and more nations (including US allies) buying gold and unloading some of their T-bill reserves, are signs that the day of reckoning will arrive before Trump can safely leave the White House with any bragging rights!

Obama did his best Wile E Coyote imitation through two terms as president...authorizing more and more QE spending, and now the Federal Reserve member banks are sending the signal that they want interest rates increased....even though they know full well that will bring this show to a close. The Transnational Capitalist Class is aware of the intrinsic boom and bust cycles inherent in capitalism...which only functions well during times of economic growth. When they see that normal economic growth can't absorb the enlarging money supply and pay off new debt, then it's time to push the stop button and crash the system, and shake out the smaller players, leaving them holding empty sacks of paper assets, while those who have planned for a crash will use the recession/depression opportunity to buy up real assets at fire sale prices.

What's worse is that the international banking and financial management elites are indicating that only war and devastation caused by wars can clear the spaces for new economic growth to resume. Although on the local level...such as Brazil's imminent fascist government and allied business leaders see the complete destruction of the Amazon and other undeveloped regions as their future source of economic growth! And, all this is why I see capitalism as a suicidal force that has been pushing the human race to extinction, and doing it at an increasingly rapid rate as the world becomes more fouled up and depleted of resources.
 
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You give him too much credit. Actually the largest donors for Democrats are Steyers and Bloomberg. LOL. We are progressives and since the GOP ok'd Citizens United, we can use as much money as we can get. Look at Rep O'Rouke, he takes no money from pacs, unlike Cruz.

In the case of Beto O'Roarke, the Right uses a different tactic--in fact, the same tactic they use to slam Warren--ethnic claims. Beto's family is Irish and his given name is Robert, but he was called Beto as a child SO...of course his opponents want to make the nickname some kind of issue claiming "BETO is NOT Mexican". This is what we've become and that starts at the TOP with the "Mexicans/illegals are rapists and murderers" theme song...as if that makes sense. BETO is Irish, not Mexican, but don't vote for him because he pretends to be Mexican. LMAO
 
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You're missing my main point that anyone can drive a truck through whatever "Progressive" stands for and not actually hit anything! And that is primarily because of big money on the so called 'left' interfering and tinkering with the process and redirecting attention of group members and onlookers looking for direction/but not actively involved in the day to day running of DSA and other change agents.

The biggest change I've noticed over the decades since big money started funding/and controlling liberal and even left organizations since the mid-70's is that all attention and activities end at US borders now. If we go back to the 60's, the black activist groups ranging from radical to relatively mainstream were all consciously aware of and did not forget about international issues...especially while the Vietnam War was still ongoing and the results of the Pentagon Money-sucking machine that was taking money out of domestic priorities, could be seen every day on the nightly news!

Today's 'progressives' and even so called new socialists have little or usually absolutely nothing to say about US foreign policy, the exponential growth in US war and security and surveillance spending, and the impacts of US foreign policy in all the places where the bombs are dropping! Instead, even the so called 'Democratic Socialists' like Bernie, and sadly even the new, younger generation who have decided to step on the political stage, like Alexandria Cortez and Julia Salazar, think all they have to do is stay on their talking points about: nationwide $15/hr min. wage, universal healthcare and free tuition (again) for public colleges and universities.

If money could grow on trees, as some Keynsians and what's called MMT( Modern Monetary Theorists) believe, maybe you could do it all! Create trillions in new dollars and fund an oppressive international commercial empire and all the domestic spending on your wish list, BUT all new currency/debt obligations created by fiat out of thin air, are claims on future real assets. YOu can go running off the edge of a cliff and keep going like Wile E. Coyote for only so long! And the rumbling signs of combined stock and bond market collapse, along with more and more nations (including US allies) buying gold and unloading some of their T-bill reserves, are signs that the day of reckoning will arrive before Trump can safely leave the White House with any bragging rights!

Obama did his best Wile E Coyote imitation through two terms as president...authorizing more and more QE spending, and now the Federal Reserve member banks are sending the signal that they want interest rates increased....even though they know full well that will bring this show to a close. The Transnational Capitalist Class is aware of the intrinsic boom and bust cycles inherent in capitalism...which only functions well during times of economic growth. When they see that normal economic growth can't absorb the enlarging money supply and pay off new debt, then it's time to push the stop button and crash the system, and shake out the smaller players, leaving them holding empty sacks of paper assets, while those who have planned for a crash will use the recession/depression opportunity to buy up real assets at fire sale prices.

What's worse is that the international banking and financial management elites are indicating that only war and devastation caused by wars can clear the spaces for new economic growth to resume. Although on the local level...such as Brazil's imminent fascist government and allied business leaders see the complete destruction of the Amazon and other undeveloped regions as their future source of economic growth! And, all this is why I see capitalism as a suicidal force that has been pushing the human race to extinction, and doing it at an increasingly rapid rate as the world becomes more fouled up and depleted of resources.

Though we dissagree on the basics of capitalism you post is spot on.
 
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The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
 
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Though we dissagree on the basics of capitalism you post is spot on.
Yes, but beware of any talk of a left-right coalition! I don't know if you're aware of or follow a prominent and prolific independent leftist writer - Caitlin Johnstone, but when she proposed such a cross-ideological alliance with libertarians and paleocons on mutual interests like opposing empire building and the proliferation of wars and war spending, she got sandbagged by some of the self-proclaimed guardians of the left like Counterpunch and the World Socialist Website...who seemed to have instructed all their affiliated writers to post something attacking her on a steady basis for a few weeks. If they had the money....well they would be doing what Facebook et al are doing right now!
 
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Yes, but beware of any talk of a left-right coalition! I don't know if you're aware of or follow a prominent and prolific independent leftist writer - Caitlin Johnstone, but when she proposed such a cross-ideological alliance with libertarians and paleocons on mutual interests like opposing empire building and the proliferation of wars and war spending, she got sandbagged by some of the self-proclaimed guardians of the left like Counterpunch and the World Socialist Website...who seemed to have instructed all their affiliated writers to post something attacking her on a steady basis for a few weeks. If they had the money....well they would be doing what Facebook et al are doing right now!

No, im not aware of her but will look into her. That in no way surprises me. There is big money in war and even bigger in keeping people at each others necks. We can't have people w/ common interests fraternizing especially if those interests contradict those echoed by the establishment and those people have actually taken the time to pick up a few books.
 
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