Why the Democrat Leadership, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, embrace socialism

May 2019
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Not gonna do that because you have to explain how I am wrong. That's how an argument works.
You seem to have a very clear misunderstanding of what the "democrat leadership" wants.

First off, basically 0% of the Democratic Party actually support socialism. That's a lie told most likely to you by maniacal conspiracy rednecks.

Secondly, I have no idea why you are so in shock that a politician is paid more than your average middle class worker. Repubs and Dems do this. If that is socialism then all politicians are socialist. See? Makes no sense.

3rd, I don't know where you found the claim that AOC wants give herself 4,500$ in living costs through the gov. Also, I'm pretty sure that taxpayers don't pay for politicians living costs.

No ones promising "free socialist cheese". Medicare for all will be paid for by taxing the big wigs up at Wall Street. Your whole post sounds like it came straight off of infowars mate. Get some real facts.
Jesus Christ, you do not understand what I'm trying to say.

The Democrats are not trying to institute socialism. I showed you a poll of democrats who support socialism. It was next to 0%.

Saying the Dems want socialism is a completely unsupported and blatantly false claim greatly exaggerating the views of the Democratic Party.

You can spew shit about the founding fathers if you want, the Democratic Party isn't living in the 1700s. Everyone of them supports democracy. If you want to have an argument about the democratic system of government in this country that's fine, but it has no relation to the original thesis.
I hate to have to point this out, but one of the principle reasons I walked away from the Democrat party was their embrace of Socialism and Communism. I am glad I am an independent now without an allegiance to that party. Anyway you are just flat wrong with saying no Democrats support Socialism. The Democratic party is the party of Socialism in the United States.
Democrats have a more positive view of socialism than capitalism, poll finds

2020 poll: 77 percent of Democrats back socialism, but most voters don’t

64 percent say Democratic Party supports socialism, says poll
Do you see the three sources i have of much much recent data than you gave originally? That would be my proof.

Rather its Democratic Socialism or not its still a form of Socialism.
Have a nice day. I have nothing more to add
 
Jul 2015
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#32
In reference to the OP. Virtually none of the major Democratic politicians really like Socialism. They just found its an excuse to promise free stuff to win elections.
And once they are elected they get to live large by taxing their constituents to pay for their outrageous salaries and benefits.


The vast majority of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s constituents do not have the financial means to obtain the same healthcare available to her. And, she also gets access to free healthcare paid for by her constituents.


Members of Congress get a gold-level Obamacare policy and receive federal subsidies that cover 72 percent of the cost of their health insurance premiums. Additionally, free or low-cost care is available to them from the Office of the Attending Physician, and they also have access to free outpatient care at military facilities in the Washington, D.C., area.


The truth is, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s now lives large at her constituents expense who are taxed to finance her free government cheese. And what was one of the first things she wanted after being elected? She wanted to give herself and members of Congress a $4,500 cost of living increase which her constituents would be taxed to pay. She feels her annual earnings of $285,000 [pay plus benefits, such as free healthcare] is not enough, while her constituents average earnings are under $60K.


JWK


Socialist democrats running for office will promise food on the table, free public housing, health care for all, guaranteed income, free college tuition, and other niceties by taxing the so called rich; and if by chance they ever do gain political power because of such promises made, their socialist iron-fisted dependency will enslave the very fools who elected them.
 
Nov 2012
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Free College Free minimum income from the Government Free college, Pay off Student loans, Reparations, Free Medicare for all (Sanders said there would be no Premiums, No deductibles, No copays, Free Healthcare for Illegals (some said free housing for some) + Current Budget 4.2 Trillion dollars

Total est Cost 23.7 Trillion dollars Total GDP 19.3 Trillion dollars, to pay for this the Democrats will have to tax 23.7 trillion dollars out of a 19.3 trillion dollar economy...

So they will have to tax >100% of Every Paycheck, Every Corporation's Profit, Capital Gains, Welfare check, Foodstamp, WIC to fund it.
 
Jul 2014
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Sorry. Socialist/communist administrator.

JWK

It is absolutely shameful for our sexual deviant crowd to hitch their wagon to the civil rights struggle of African Americans who fought to end distinctions being made based upon race and color.
Which would make you a fascist propagandist
 
Feb 2019
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#35
You are now projecting and exaggerating. Try commenting on what I actually indicated.

JWK
"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968
You indicated nothing in your bizarre rants about U.S. Federalism. I have nothing more to argue with you about.
 
Feb 2019
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Do you see the three sources i have of much much recent data than you gave originally? That would be my proof.

Rather its Democratic Socialism or not its still a form of Socialism.
Have a nice day. I have nothing more to add
Democratic Socialism is so different than socialism. Saying that it's a form of socialism is like saying a Lamborghini is a form of a Subaru. Yeah, they're both cars, but one is much better.

Do a bit more research kid, you'll learn more about what I'm talking about.
 
Jul 2015
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#38
Where's that old meme? ah, found it



And while they tell you that, those handing out the government cheese, live large on the taxpayer's dime, while the only thing they leave the taxpayer is a dime.

JWK


Socialist democrats running for office will promise food on the table, free public housing, health care for all, guaranteed income, free college tuition, and other niceties by taxing the so called rich; and if by chance they ever do gain political power because of such promises made, their socialist iron-fisted dependency will enslave the very fools who elected them.
 
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Jul 2015
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#39
Democratic Socialism is so different than socialism. Saying that it's a form of socialism is like saying a Lamborghini is a form of a Subaru. Yeah, they're both cars, but one is much better.

Do a bit more research kid, you'll learn more about what I'm talking about.


Anyone with common sense knows exactly what you are talking about. You are talking about using the force of government to confiscate the property earned by our most productive citizens, and transferring it to a privileged class for their personal economic needs ____ AKA theft.


JWK


The unavoidable truth is, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.
 
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Anyone with common sense knows exactly what you are talking about. You are talking about using the force of government to confiscate the property earned by our most productive citizens, and transferring it to a privileged class for their personal economic needs ____ AKA theft.


JWK


The unavoidable truth is, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.
YOU are talking about the system of government called "literally no one was talking about that"!

Socialism is high centralization in government and lack of freedom for more government control. Which I wasn't advocating for nor supporting.

Do some more research.