Will Trump Leave the WH?

Dec 2015
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15,978
Arizona
#1
There's a new theory in D.C. and it's spreading across the country. Is our current president so corrupt that he would refuse to leave the WH if he loses the 2020 presidential race?
There have been numerous contested elections in US history, including as recently as 2000, when the Supreme Court essentially called it for George W. Bush.
What there hasn't been is a sitting President who refused to accept the results. The so-called peaceful transfer of power is a key ingredient of the American political experiment.

President Donald Trump has signaled in the past few days that challenging the legitimacy of the 2020 election is the latest way he's prepared to break all precedent -- and stress-test but the Constitution and the country.
The concerns are real enough that one former National Security Council lawyer wrote for CNN in February that lawmakers should start asking Pentagon officials to swear they will respect the election winner on January 21, 2021, even if that person is not Trump.

Most of us understand that there's NEVER been someone like Donald J Trump in the White House---someone who would need to be evicted from the WH because he MIGHT claim the election was "rigged". After all, it's ONE OF his favorite mind-sets. Trump lied repeatedly about the 2016 win and again in 2018. It's a disturbing pattern.

This is the same president who famously claimed he had actually won a popular vote victory in 2016 (he lost by more than 2 percent of the vote, which isn’t all that close) that was stolen from him by “millions of illegal votes” cast for Hillary Clinton. Indeed, this claim led to his appointment of the infamous Presidential Commission on Election Integrity, led by the nativist vote-suppression hero Kris Kobach, which collapsed in disarray without producing any new evidence of the president’s lurid scenario.
Back in 2016, at a presidential debate with Hillary Clinton just before Election Day, he would not commit to respecting the results.

Now he's President and he's already laid the groundwork for arguing a loss is not fair to him. This question - whether Trump will accept the results, is going to come up again, for sure.
He's in the White House and in control of the US military and the country's national security apparatus. Those organizations should honor their oath to uphold the Constitution, but if Trump were to reject the results, it would certainly create chaos and set up a historic strain on the US government.
Can Trump be forced to accept a 2020 loss? - CNNPolitics
 
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Mar 2019
2,574
576
Texas
#4
Lets be perfectly clear in that he has already spoken of such and spoken desires to change the rules so he can stay more than two terms.

Let's get real people and ask why would he leave? He turned all his opponents into greedy cucks that cower in the corner and his allies constantly lick his boots.

Who would make him leave? The people who claimed they would do their job when they got the house? You? It does not look that way at all.
 
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imaginethat

Forum Staff
Oct 2010
67,727
27,614
Colorado
#5
There's a new theory in D.C. and it's spreading across the country. Is our current president so corrupt that he would refuse to leave the WH if he loses the 2020 presidential race?
There have been numerous contested elections in US history, including as recently as 2000, when the Supreme Court essentially called it for George W. Bush.
What there hasn't been is a sitting President who refused to accept the results. The so-called peaceful transfer of power is a key ingredient of the American political experiment.

President Donald Trump has signaled in the past few days that challenging the legitimacy of the 2020 election is the latest way he's prepared to break all precedent -- and stress-test but the Constitution and the country.
The concerns are real enough that one former National Security Council lawyer wrote for CNN in February that lawmakers should start asking Pentagon officials to swear they will respect the election winner on January 21, 2021, even if that person is not Trump.

Most of us understand that there's NEVER been someone like Donald J Trump in the White House---someone who would need to be evicted from the WH because he MIGHT claim the election was "rigged". After all, it's ONE OF his favorite mind-sets. Trump lied repeatedly about the 2016 win and again in 2018. It's a disturbing pattern.

This is the same president who famously claimed he had actually won a popular vote victory in 2016 (he lost by more than 2 percent of the vote, which isn’t all that close) that was stolen from him by “millions of illegal votes” cast for Hillary Clinton. Indeed, this claim led to his appointment of the infamous Presidential Commission on Election Integrity, led by the nativist vote-suppression hero Kris Kobach, which collapsed in disarray without producing any new evidence of the president’s lurid scenario.
Back in 2016, at a presidential debate with Hillary Clinton just before Election Day, he would not commit to respecting the results.

Now he's President and he's already laid the groundwork for arguing a loss is not fair to him. This question - whether Trump will accept the results, is going to come up again, for sure.
He's in the White House and in control of the US military and the country's national security apparatus. Those organizations should honor their oath to uphold the Constitution, but if Trump were to reject the results, it would certainly create chaos and set up a historic strain on the US government.
Can Trump be forced to accept a 2020 loss? - CNNPolitics
As in all things Trump, the bigger problem centers on those who'll support him no matter what he does ... and he knows they will, and he uses them.

With this crowd, he could reopen Trump University and they'd sign up.
 
Mar 2019
2,574
576
Texas
#6
If he decided to stay in office beyond legality then it looks like it would just become a court battle where the left is standing around wondering why he does not do what they say.

Just another court challenge.

Really who would take him out of office? Barr? Pelosi? Mconnel?
 
Jun 2018
5,825
1,351
South Dakota
#7
Lets be perfectly clear in that he has already spoken of such and spoken desires to change the rules so he can stay more than two terms.
I seem to remember Hills floating that old POS idea.
The idea of third terms came up both with Clinton and Obama. Nothing new. Now that there's a Prez who could actually do that the lefties are preemptively floating the idea feigning all kinds of woe and gloom. Setting yourselves up with a moment of briliance if your right in an environment that can rarely produce anything but an "oh shit, wrong again" followed by a protracted spin to blow it back on the Republicans.
 
Mar 2019
2,574
576
Texas
#8
I seem to remember Hills floating that old POS idea.
The idea of third terms came up both with Clinton and Obama. Nothing new. Now that there's a Prez who could actually do that the lefties are preemptively floating the idea feigning all kinds of woe and gloom. Setting yourselves up with a moment of briliance if your right in an environment that can rarely produce anything but an "oh shit, wrong again" followed by a protracted spin to blow it back on the Republicans.

Classic spin. Your answer to such is to point out that others thought of it first.

Did fox teach you that?
 
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May 2019
675
148
USA
#10
Yup, and a very accurate one.
It might be a smart play to see if any Democratic party candidates can actually beat Trump before screaming Trump will not accept results. I just saw where Hillary Clinton was screaming bout how the election was stolen from her. Did she not say that Trump should accept the election results back in 2016?
 
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