YOU WANT UNLIMITED FREEDOM/ I DONT THINK SO giving a person unlimited freedom means some one else loses theres completely

Sep 2018
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Cops Say Utah Couple Waterboarded Girl, 9 see this is why we have a nannay state because adults cant act grown up
A husband and wife in Utah are accused of a form of child abuse so cruel it is widely considered a violation of the Geneva Convention. Police say the Provo couple allegedly waterboarded a 9-year-old girl on at least three occasions, KUTV reports.

The girl's father, 29-year-old Joseph Mitchell, and her stepmother, 28-year-old Ilaria Mitchell, have been arrested and charged with one count each of child abuse. A police affidavit states that the girl told police the couple would "would take her to the bathroom and tie her hands behind her back. They would then hold her down in the bathtub and place a towel over her face and pour water on it."

"The 9-year-old stated that she cannot breathe and it hurts when this happens," the affidavit states. Cops Say Utah Couple Waterboarded Girl, 9 - news+ - att.net
The so-called paradox of freedom is the argument that freedom in the sense of absence of any constraining control must lead to very great restraint, since it makes the bully free to enslave the meek. The idea is, in a slightly different form, and with very different tendency, clearly expressed in Plato.
 
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You see that would be assault.. Freedom ENDS where the other persons nose begins.

example: It is TOTAL FREEDOM when everyone to own a firearm... Freedom ends for a person when they MISUSE the firearm
 
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You see that would be assault.. Freedom ENDS where the other persons nose begins.

example: It is TOTAL FREEDOM when everyone to own a firearm... Freedom ends for a person when they MISUSE the firearm
Agreed. The Socialists want to use a single action by criminally abusive parents to have all children raised by the State and, thereby, enslave the population. This is noted by their use of Plato to install a dictatorship.

Guardians and Auxiliaries
"Plato divides his just society into three classes: the producers, the auxiliaries, and the guardians. The auxiliaries are the warriors, responsible for defending the city from invaders, and for keeping the peace at home. They must enforce the convictions of the guardians, and ensure that the producers obey."
 
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You see that would be assault.. Freedom ENDS where the other persons nose begins.

example: It is TOTAL FREEDOM when everyone to own a firearm... Freedom ends for a person when they MISUSE the firearm
total freedom to me is when everyone is disarmed.. except the people i like and work for me, just being honest, i was brought up to beleive you never alow your enemies to be armed.. or breath actually.. enemies dont have rights all they are is a target
 
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Agreed. The Socialists want to use a single action by criminally abusive parents to have all children raised by the State and, thereby, enslave the population. This is noted by their use of Plato to install a dictatorship.

Guardians and Auxiliaries
"Plato divides his just society into three classes: the producers, the auxiliaries, and the guardians. The auxiliaries are the warriors, responsible for defending the city from invaders, and for keeping the peace at home. They must enforce the convictions of the guardians, and ensure that the producers obey."
plate was smart
 

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